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There are no valid arguments for the existence of God

Lately, I've been seeing tons of illogical arguments that christians have been trying to use to prove the existence of God. I haven't seen one valid argument for God, and I'm getting quite tired of destroying the same feeble arguments over and over again, so I thought I'd take the most common ones and take them apart, so that you people can finally stop using them. [quote][i]You can't prove that God isn't real. [/i][/quote] This is a logical fallacy. The burden of proof lies on the person claiming the positive (religious people), not us. If you believe God is real, it's your job to provide evidence. Furthermore, we also can't prove that there isn't a magic green monkey flying around Jupiter, but that isn't a valid reason to believe he's there. [quote][i]The Bible is proof of God[/i][/quote] No. Just, no. Anyone who uses a Bible verse to support the existence of God is insane. That's like saying that a Spider-Man comic is proof of spider man. [quote][i]Do you really think that all life could have arisen from a series of coincidences?[/i][/quote] Anyone who says this needs to do a bit more research. Yes, there were many requirements for life to arise on earth, but you're not considering how large the universe is, and how many times shit has gone wrong. Statistically speaking, the natural evolution of life on earth is very possible, and there is almost certainly other life out there. [quote][i]Well, science doesn't fully understand 'X' yet, therefore God must have done it.[/i][/quote] Just because we don't understand something yet doesn't mean we won't in the future, and to instantly assume that everything is Gods work is a very closed-minded way of looking at things. [quote][i]It's called having faith.[/i][/quote] No. Faith is the intentional suppression of critical thinking skills. It is in no way a valid reason to believe anything. [quote][i]The second law of thermodynamics states that systems become less and less organized. That means that evolution and the Big Bang go against this law. Therefore, God is responsible for the creation of earth and life on earth[/i][/quote] This isn't true. The second law of thermodynamics only applies to isolated (closed) systems. The earth is in no way a closed system. This argument really just shows ignorance on whoever uses it's part. [quote][i]Theres nothing to lose by not believing in him, and eternal paradise if you do. (Pascal's Wager).[/i][/quote] This is a horrible argument for a number of reasons. First, who says the Christian God is real? There are hundreds of different Gods out there, so why not believe in them too, just to be safe? Secondly, do you really think an omniscient God won't figure out that the only reason you believed in him was because you wanted to go to heaven? Pascal's wagers is one of the worst arguments ever. Period. Note: This next one was actually an argument on this very thread. Try not to die of laughter. [quote][i]http://thetruthwins.com/archives/dna-results-for-the-nephilim-skulls-in-peru-are-in-and-the-results-are-absolutely-shocking We have angel skulls, therefore God exists. [/i][/quote] This one made me laugh so hard. The link basically just says that the skulls were from an unknown human-like creature, probably some sort of primate. The guy who sent me this instantly jumped from "unknown human-like mammal" to "Angel skulls". I literally can't even right now. These are only a few of the arguments that I can remember off the top of my head, but I know I'm missing a ton. Post them below, and I'll destroy them and add them to the OP. Help me spread education and awareness to Offtopic, one post at a time. Purse, out.

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  • Edited by zxNimbus: 9/6/2015 3:02:16 PM
    Patton Oswalt is hilarious

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  • I mean there's no proof your brain exists either, but I'm sure it's there. Somewhere. Maybe.

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    • Yeah

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    • https://www.marxists.org/history/cuba/archive/castro/1953/10/16.htm

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    • Well, i don't believe god, too.

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    • Edited by Doctor Cox: 9/6/2015 3:15:17 AM
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      • You want physical evidence for a spiritual entity?

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      • You are wrong. According to you, the argument for God's existence is not valid. Validity disregards whether the premise or conclusion is true. The term you are looking for is an "unsound argument". You are trying to use logic to "disprove" a faith but you clearly don't know anything about it so please read some more before posting incorrect and insensitive (and unnecessary) positions.

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      • Sounds like god needs to give some one a hug.

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      • Jesus loves you.

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        • You can't prove he isnt

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          • Edited by Sir Spamselot: 9/6/2015 6:13:33 AM
            Hey purse there is a story in the bible about you, did you know that.

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          • I support op

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            • C'mon, I know you can do better than this

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            • Tl:dr?

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              • Smh...

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              • b but muh opinion

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                • I want Purse to have my babies.

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                • Wut if god sl4ps u?

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                  • Dammit I was praying they'd ban you

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                    • [i]but I've seen him!!!!!111!![/i]

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                    • Lol, all your post only involve how you care so much about god even though you don't believe in him. You're funny, looking up all this info :D

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                    • Le book [spoiler][i]le win[/i][/spoiler]

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                    • [quote]Lately, I've been seeing tons of illogical arguments that christians have been trying to use to prove the existence of God. I haven't seen one valid argument for God, and I'm getting quite tired of destroying the same feeble arguments over and over again, so I thought I'd take the most common ones and take them apart, so that you people can finally stop using them. [quote][i]You can't prove that God isn't real. [/i][/quote] This is a logical fallacy. The burden of proof lies on the person claiming the positive (religious people), not us. If you believe God is real, it's your job to provide evidence. Furthermore, we also can't prove that there isn't a magic green monkey flying around Jupiter, but that isn't a valid reason to believe he's there. [quote][i]The Bible is proof of God[/i][/quote] No. Just, no. Anyone who uses a Bible verse to support the existence of God is insane. That's like saying that a Spider-Man comic is proof of spider man. [quote][i]Do you really think that all life could have arisen from a series of coincidences?[/i][/quote] Anyone who says this needs to do a bit more research. Yes, there were many requirements for life to arise on earth, but you're not considering how large the universe is, and how many times shit has gone wrong. Statistically speaking, the natural evolution of life on earth is very possible, and there is almost certainly other life out there. [quote][i]Well, science doesn't fully understand 'X' yet, therefore God must have done it.[/i][/quote] Just because we don't understand something yet doesn't mean we won't in the future, and to instantly assume that everything is Gods work is a very closed-minded way of looking at things. These are only a few of the arguments that I can remember off the top of my head, but I know I'm missing a ton. Post them below, and I'll destroy them and add them to the OP. Help me spread education and awareness to Offtopic, one post at a time. Purse, out.[/quote]

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                    • Eh, maybe for shits and giggles. Step one. Kalam Cosmological Argument: Whatever begins to exist has a cause. The Universe began to exist. Therefore, the Universe had a cause.

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                      • Well put. It takes an open mind to accept logic and the truth, even if it requires looking into the abyss and darkness.

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