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9/12/2015 8:46:34 PM
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Apparently smoking weed also makes people unable to post their garbage in the correct forum. #offtopic Also- it [i]is a carcinogen[/i] It [i]is associated with several psychiatric disorders[/i] It [i]does cause physiological changes in your brain[/i] It [i]does cause estrogen-like effects in the male body[/i]
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  • links please

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  • Ok: Carcinogens presence: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/12412839/ ( read the abstract) Estrogen-like activity: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/6296360/ (This is why it shrinks testicles and causes gynecomastia) Physiological brain changes in marijuana users: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/10772599/ (it shrinks your brain... Surprise!!) Psychological events related to cannabis use: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2424288/#!po=0.980392

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  • Edited by zebra862: 9/12/2015 10:22:24 PM
    [quote] Carcinogens presence: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/12412839/ [/quote] --- You do realized that was published in 2002 in The Journal of Clinical Pharmacology --- do you have any substantial research that was conducted within the past couple of years [quote]Estrogen-like activity: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/6296360/ [/quote] Marijuana grown for rec use has higher levels of THC than CBD. CBD is actually being used to help patients with seizures. As there are different types of flowers, some have high CBD but most don't. [quote]Physiological brain changes in marijuana users: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/10772599/ [/quote] Brains ae considered fully developed at age 21. With that said, teens who do smoke will inhibit the brain from growing the normal size - the study even said they looked at kids under 17 and noticed it --- Study was conducted in 2000 -- try to find something more recent [quote]Psychological events related to cannabis use: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2424288/#!po=0.980392 [/quote] again referring to children -- not applicable Do you even read or have access to the full study?

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  • Here's a more recent article that may help you understand the risks associated with marijuana use and its potential impact on psychiatric Health http://www.psychiatrictimes.com/schizophrenia/cannabis-psychosis-link/page/0/3

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  • I have provided substantiating evidence. If you want to do research and provide links to RCTs which dispute that which I have provided, go for it. Your teachers may have told you that sources need to be within the last 5 years, but in the real world that's not true. Read any current journal article and you will see citations dating back decades. I do applaud you for actually looking at my links before commenting. However, your biggest qualm seems to be that some studies were on adolescents. That is true, but is absolutely doesn't confound my assertions. These studies are pretty good science. If I wanted to spend more time finding more recent data it would not be hard, but I already know what I said is true.

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  • I am long removed from teachers telling me what to do. At my job, reports given to me by my colleagues have to be up to date. If we are interested in merger or an acquisition recent information is relevant. We don't go back in 2000 to check up on the status of the company. I just think you evidence doesn't coincide with the discussion that is happening right now It is 2015 and there is an abundance of research arguing your points. You just seem closed minded on this issue.

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  • Edited by Kohaku Koi: 9/12/2015 10:41:55 PM
    No, I'm open minded. I also stated that i'm in favor of legalization, but the truth about its potential harms should be openly discussed. It's common knowledge that ALL forms of burnt vegetation present some level of carcinogen. It's also common knowledge that THC is a psychotropic drug which can impact your psychiatric well-being long term. Whether the study is on adults or children is completely irrelevant Your issue with the date of the study is funny to me. I haven't seen any published articles lately about whether the earth is flat or not... I suppose that's still up for debate until you can give me a current journal article. I'm done here. Let's just go play Destiny, and smoke a bowl, if you need.

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  • Plz show me the articles backing up anything you hust posted

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  • It's super easy for anyone who knows how to use PubMed or search scholarly journal articles. Here are some peer reviewed materials from reputable scientific journals I found in about six minutes. It's very common knowledge among most people that there are risks associated with MJ use. (I don't think it should be illegal, by the way, but I do think all risks need to be discussed, just like cigarettes and alcohol) Ok: Carcinogens presence: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/12412839/ ( read the abstract) Estrogen-like activity: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/6296360/ (This is why it shrinks testicles and causes gynecomastia) Physiological brain changes in marijuana users: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/10772599/ (it shrinks your brain... Surprise!!) Psychological events related to cannabis use: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2424288/#!po=0.980392

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  • Edited by Thr0ckmorton: 9/12/2015 10:20:48 PM
    Did you even read the articles or just the abstract? Lol. No numbers no data no nothing and, just going from the abstract we have Estrogen article -only 1 form of thc they tested reacted with estrogen recepters at very concentrated levels[b]in rats[/b] and cpuld not be reproduced in vivo. Shrinks your brain article- no data or evidence but ok again going off the abstract it clearly says it only affected thoze smoking before 17 and it MAY have a link Carcinogen presence article- clearly states multiple studies showing any causual relationship is still needed Yes any fool can go on pubmed or google scholar, read an abstract, and suddenly be an expert on the subject

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  • These are peer reviewed and published in reputable journals. I have access to all of them through my professional affiliation. It also was a cursory search to do the homework that you blind pro-legalization people refuse to do yourselves. I'm not making this stuff up. You don't get articles published without intense scrutiny....

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  • Edited by Thr0ckmorton: 9/12/2015 10:34:22 PM
    Yes as a physical therapist i know what it takes to get something published and i also know how to read a damn article lol. All the ones you posted had inconclusive results and if you honestly think that some articles dont slip through with a crappy p value or fudged results or clinically insignificant results then that is sad. It is also ignorant to think anyone pro legalization hasnt done research.

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  • Lol you are a -blam!-ing idiot. Take down your Nixon and Reagan posters.

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  • You can personally attacking me, or read the HUGE PILES OF SCIENCE that are available which back me up quite handily. You must be a global warming denier too? Ok: Carcinogens presence: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/12412839/ ( read the abstract) Estrogen-like activity: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/6296360/ (This is why it shrinks testicles and causes gynecomastia) Physiological brain changes in marijuana users: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/10772599/ (it shrinks your brain... Surprise!!) Psychological events related to cannabis use: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2424288/#!po=0.980392[/quote]

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  • No one has ever died from using marijuana. Marijuana use does not increase cancer risk( actual the opposite). There is so much info out on how it helps. Look up Irvin Rosenfeild dude gets 360 joints a month from your federal government.

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