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Edited by Unicorn Goo:
9/13/2015 9:40:34 AM
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And driving your car everyday is associated with death.
In other words there has to be contributing factors that lead to this causal relationship. And here is another study that reiterates what I'm saying,
http://bjp.rcpsych.org/content/184/2/110
In your original post you brought up more then psychosis, which I also debunked.
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Thanks for proving my point . Their conclusion states the following: Conclusions: Cases of psychotic disorder could be prevented by discouraging cannabis use among vulnerable youths.
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Cannabis use appears to be neither a sufficient nor a necessary cause for psychosis. It is a component cause, part of a complex constellation of factors leading to psychosis. From the same link I posted. And could you please post all of the information that you are quoting from the link. You conveniently left out the part that goes against your claims
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Dude, all I ever said is that it is associated with psychiatric conditions. You have proven this repeatedly.
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Edited by Unicorn Goo: 9/13/2015 2:48:11 PM[quote]Physiological brain changes in marijuana users: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/10772599/ (it shrinks your brain... Surprise!!) Psychological events related to cannabis use: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2424288/#!po=0.980392[/quote] There is the quote from your original post. Where do you say it is associated with it? [spoiler][b]NOWHERE[/b][/spoiler] I see where you say it shrinks your brain but nothing where you say it is associated with it
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You have to know what the word "physiological" means. That study shows shrinking grey matter.
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[quote]I see where you say it shrinks your brain but nothing where you say it is associated with it[/quote] A quote from my post. Did I say anything about psychological effects? Nope. Nice pointless comment due to your misunderstanding of grammar
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[quote][quote]I see where you say it shrinks your brain but nothing where you say it is associated with it[/quote] A quote from my post. Did I say anything about [b][i]psychological[/i][/b] effects? Nope. Nice pointless comment due to your misunderstanding of grammar[/quote] Please reread my comment, dipshit. PHYSIOLOGICAL is different than PSYCHOLOGICAL. You have now made yourself look absolutely silly. [i]Physiological[/i] refers to the [i][b]physical[/b][/i] aspects of the human body.
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Regardless of what my phone auto corrects. You still do not say anything about it being associated with it. (Psychosis )
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Here's the link again, I suggest you read the abstract and conclusion, if not the whole thing. It discusses everything I've been saying, and it's from 2008. Psychological events related to cannabis use: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2424288/#!po=0.980392
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There is increasing evidence that the association is biologically plausible, but given the complex nature of the aetiology of schizophrenia and related disorders, it is unlikely that the relationship will be due to an interaction between cannabis use and a single gene. They sure do sound sure of themselves don't they. Taken from the conclusion of the link you provided
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Edited by Kohaku Koi: 9/13/2015 4:03:36 PM[quote]Regardless of what my phone auto corrects. You still do not say anything about it being associated with it. (Psychosis )[/quote] Ok. This is getting hilarious. You clearly didn't know the difference between the two words. But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Now, if you read the article I posted about PSYCHOLOGICAL effects it very plainly states that psychosis is an effect of MJ use. (Psychosis is a psychological condition, FYI) It's only a few sentences into the abstract. It is also COMMON KNOWLEDGE among anyone in the medical field. You are so far out of your element I feel really sorry to see you floundering. Autocorrect knows the difference between physiological and psychological, by the way.
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Lol, floundering. I have posted 8 links to back up my claims while you are still stuck on the original 4 you posted. I think you are the one floundering bub
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You are clearly out of your element when you can't discern between simple terms pertaining to the subject at hand. If you think bulk of sources is superior to quality, there is no hope for this discussion. Let's just be done.
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Says the guy who posted research articles from [b][u]1983[/u][/b] to back up his claims. Cute
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Quality article from 1983 that still hold up to scrutiny 30 years later. Yes, I stand behind that
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Even after I posted 3 articles that negate it. You standing by a study that's over 30 years old is like me standing by studies that are from the same time that says tobacco doesn't cause cancer.
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Edited by Unicorn Goo: 9/13/2015 4:21:14 PMSo I can argue this point intelligently but I don't know the difference between 2 words in my argument? Nice deduction. Why is it you keep referring to the same article whilst I have provided numerous to back my claim? (that you're full of sh!t) Funny, you know what phone I am using and the how the auto correct works on it. Why am I not surprised? And now you're speaking for the entire medical field? Hilarious. I guess Dr. Grinspoon isn't a doctor?
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[quote][quote]Physiological brain changes in marijuana users: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/10772599/ (it shrinks your brain... Surprise!!) Psychological events related to cannabis use: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2424288/#!po=0.980392[/quote] There is the quote from your original post. Where do you say it is associated with it? [spoiler][b]NOWHERE[/b][/spoiler][/quote] That wasn't my original post, nice try though. You have accused me of leaving out important parts when reposting quotes, yet you just did that! Please read the first sentence of the post you just quoted. This was a follow up to my initial comment. You are not being very science minded, man. You are clearly chasing after an agenda rather than seeking truth. I'm done here. You've already tried many times and have failed to disprove anything I said. Goodbye. Go play Destiny.
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[quote]I've been requested to add links supporting my FACTUAL claims. Carcinogens presence: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/12412839/ ( read the abstract) Estrogen-like activity: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/6296360/ (This is why it shrinks testicles and causes gynecomastia) Physiological brain changes in marijuana users: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/10772599/ (it shrinks your brain... Surprise!!) Psychological events related to cannabis use: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2424288/#!po=0.980392[/quote] Here is your original post. I don't see another one at the top of this discussion, does anyone else? You've been proved wrong countless times. You're just to ignorant to see it.
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You know what "not sufficient or necessary cause" means, right? It means it is a risk factor. Especially in people with some genetic predisposition. Numerous studies indicate that pot can cause psychotic breaks and long term psychiatric problems in people who were already [i]at risk[/i] but [i]who might not have otherwise become ill[/i]...
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So pot doesn't cause psycosis unless there are contributing factors present correct?
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Edited by Unicorn Goo: 9/13/2015 2:30:52 PMLol. Do you see where they say [b][u]vulnerable[/u][/b]? Which reiterates my point. Keep trying though If there were no other contributing factors they wouldn't have said vulnerable
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You're grasping at straws.
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Nice intelligent response
