Ok, I've been involved in trying to kill him several times, and stuck (to me) countless hours in to it. But I feel like the bridesmaid and never the bride. I would like to try it one last time. I could do with two experienced people to try him again tonight. I don't think I need carrying, I just need a couple of people who have done it before and really know the stupid techniques. Any takers? I can understand if not. I hate this stupid flipping fight.