Before we start let me say first off I am no "Desticle" I have not bought TTK and I have no intention to do so until I see review scores and impressions that make me feel its worth my $40 purchase. So I am missing out on the new content just like you guys are. I don't drink the Kool Aid. I think that $40 for a DLC is a joke even if it is an "Expansion". I personally believe I am one of the most outspoken critics on the forums regarding TTK and its various scandals.
Then why am I bothering to post this you ask?
Because I believe in fairness and the ranting and raving I am seeing in thread after thread is not fair towards Bungie. It is a HUGE overreaction and the bombastic claims of being robbed of content and being scammed is just downright idiotic.
[b][u]You have not had any missions, strikes, raids, or weapons taken away from you that you have purchased. You can still play all the TDB missions/strikes, HoW missions/strikes and you can certainly still play the vanilla missions/strikes.
The same goes for the crucible. You still have every right to play the maps that you have already paid for in the classic playlists in the crucible. [/u][/b]
The only thing you have been locked out of is new endgame content like Nightfalls, Weeklies, Raid etc etc. That is not content that you bought that is a [i]FEATURE[/i] of the game. A feature that centers [i]around [/i]the latest content. When you bought TDB you bought the strikes, missions, gear etc etc and the Nightfall then took that content and featured it every week.
Now that TTK is the latest content the Nightfall now features THAT content. So no you don't get to do the Nightfall because the Nightfall features new content. Content that you have not paid for.
So please stop acting as if Bungie came into your game and pulled all of the missions and gear from your bleeding fingers and pissed on your Ghost. This is how expansion based games have operated for YEARS now. The new expansion comes out with new gear, new missions, and a new level cap. That new content is then featured front and center in every way and the old content is pushed off to the side.
WoW, Diablo, SWTOR etc etc have followed this design for years. This is not new and this not shocking. They did it for TDB and they did it for HoW, but they did it on a smaller scale because they were smaller packages. TTK is essentially Destiny 1 part 2. So of course its impact on the day to day functionality of the game is gonna be MUCH more noticeable and much more profound.
You paid for content.
You got that content.
You [i]still have[/i] that content.
You can still play that content.
[i]Features[/i] such as the endgame activities however will always be geared toward the latest content and if you don't have that content then you obviouslly cannot participate in the features that use that new content.
The same goes for the levelcap as well. You paid for the level-cap to be increased in each of the new DLC's that came out because they were TIED to that content and you need that gear in order to REACH that new cap. They have now raised it again and have tied that cap to the new gear.
Gear you don't have access to because you have not paid for it yet.
So of [i]COURSE[/i] the Vendors are going to be selling the latest and greatest gear. Do you honestly think that they should still be selling old level Vanilla gear like Shadow Price or The Devil You Know even though its been outclassed ages ago?
I understand that you are upset that your options are limited now because the content you bought is no longer[i] featured[/i], but don't sit their and claim that it is no longer there or that you no longer have access to it.
Because it is and you do.
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No one to.my knowledge has ever said that if you buy this game now you will be playing the same game in 10 years. If you don't like the journey you have been placed on get off it and look for something more meaningful to do in life than moaning about change. Well done op for this post.
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Why are all these kids complaining? The writing has been on the wall. I saw it coming. Oh, and it' a business, not an entertainment service.
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Dude its like a new game lol
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LOL "and pissed on your ghost" savages
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People are delusional dude. It's a bit more extreme this dlc but the amount of surprise and complaining is staggering
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Give it up...people are going to bitch regardless. I given up giving a -blam!-. They are just "peasants" who want to bitch for failing to make a decision in a timely fashion. Nicely written regardless.
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Edited by U8559484: 9/16/2015 8:35:09 AM[b]BUNGIE DID [i]NOT[/i] SEND ME THE VANDAL VIBRATOR THAT I PREORDERED WITH TTK! WTF BUNGIE! I WANT MY ALIEN DICK![/b]
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This is the best post ive read from someone who doesnt agree with bungies pricing on exapnsions ever, wish more people could think rationally. Thank you.
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I was against this 'scam' of bungie. But this post actually made me realise that content wasn't really taken away, just new content that made us jealous. There are plenty of other ways to get the old year 1 stuff without nf. I willingly put down my ego and say good post
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You could've made this a lot easier on yourself. Don't let them bother you most of them member finished th 9th grade!
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Can't compete in Pvp since all my abilities take forever to recharge- so there goes my entire build.
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OP logic. Bungie brings out update so guns don't shoot anymore because they think it's to violent. OP writes post that you aren't missing anything and not tocomplain because shooting is a feature.
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I disagree. Most mmo's do raise the level cap for endgame content but are still available to the lower leveled as well. If a raid/strike is level 34 and the expansion raises the cap to 40, the raid/strike gets a raise to 40 as well but keeps the 34 version for those who don't expand. They shouldn't block endgame content and make it mandatory to expand. They should make endgame content appropriate to your level of investment.
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can't believe the scrubs are actually down voting you on this
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Bump for truth.
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All the people complaining need to put up or shut up. You arent entitled to anything. You should be grateful developers can even do this. Back in the day if you paid for a game and a new edition or sequel came out; Guess what?? You had to pay for it. Imagine that. Ohhh the humanity! Get it. Its awesome. This is why i have a job. So i can buy things. Stop being little spoilt brats. Simple
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You tag #CommonSense in your thread, but you lack it on this particular issue.
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Fair enough, though I wish I could still play control without also signing up for clash. Love one, hate the other. Also, can I still get treasure keys for PoE? Or do I need to pay twice for the same exotic chest?
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Bungie must be -blam!-ing you real good for you to take the time and write a whole -blam!-ing page defending them. Gtfoh. Captain save a hoe ass woosie.
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One of my friends got 40 in LITERALLY! 30 seconds.
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Sigh another defender of underhanded practices how you cannot see the injustice being commited here is mind boggling.And the morons saying "its just $40 just go buy it" ....are you effing serious do pay bills etc? Bungie just effed their own fan base for some measly extra sales especially with sub accounts now needing to buy an extra copy.Oh but wait my subaccount cant buy TTk on the digital store.....wtf they want us to buy the base game and all three expansions!! Clearly OP you are wearing horse blinders and are completely missing the real issue in your haste to call people baby criers.Like most TTk defenders your seeing this through rose tinted glasses zoomed in with a maximum scope when the real issue is all around you inclusing your blindside.
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https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/153932468/0/0 yes we did FCKTard open your eyes. Plus we are paying almost double for a game that new players can get for the original cost.
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I agree but you are locked out of trials and iron banner. And trials is from the house of wolves. And iron banner you won't be a high enough level to stand a chance and get the gear.
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Also, there honestly should be some sort of 34 ToO. It was advertised as one of the selling points of the expansion. It can be moved forward as well, but it should still be playable for those who bought house of wolves. Everything else i gotta agree with.
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I thought I was long winded TLDR: gaming isn't what it used to be, welcome to the brave new world. /where is this $40 version? Cheapest I see online is $60 and through the game it's $80 for the collector editon...though shaders , sparrows and dance moves may not be worth $20 /see you starside, Guardians /always 3
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im really sorry but its not their its there and i do agree with this