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It seems a little out there to complain about losing endgame content when you're no longer at the endgame...
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  • That is the [i]grey[/i] area of the debate. You are no longer at the endgame, that is definitely one way of looking at it. But with previous updates thus far, Nightfall was only locked out to players that didn't purchase when the new DLC strike was the one selected for the Nightfall. All players could do the Nightfall when it was a vanilla strike for Nightfall that week. That has changed now. You are locked out. I cannot agree that Iron Banner and ToO must be considered endgame content. Many players that never went near a raid or other "end game" activities generally participated in both those PvP activities at level 31 in TDB and level 33 in HoW by simply using vendor gear and an Exotic piece. There was no apparent difference, as in the actual damage per shot was identical, when the level difference was just 1 level. Again, that has changed now. You are locked out. What about my other points? Do I have no leg to stand on with my other points or what?

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  • Edited by RhymesWithMoose: 9/16/2015 7:59:22 PM
    The answer is... Complicated. Some of the Crucible changes are poor design, because they split up the player base - never good, and also foolish on the business side of things. I'm not sure if you can get the 34 TTK blue stuff or not, but if you can it may make a difference as the impact of strength et al varies with level (requiring 60 per tier at 40). As much as the pulse rifle changes annoy me, though, I can't get up in arms about a balance change, because balance must come first. You're mistaken about Iron Banner and Trials, however - those are very much endgame, specifically, they're endgame PvP, which is a different ecosystem with different standards of entry from endgame PvE. All that said, there's a reality here to consider: in games like Destiny, keeping up on the expansions (which TTK is, while TDB and HoW are content packs) is part of the price of admission. Certain things cannot be designed for both people who have it and people who don't. The question you have to ask yourself is if you're willing to pay that price.

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