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Edited by Coyote_x_Starrk:
9/16/2015 1:46:06 AM
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You have not had any content taken away from you so please stop saying that you have.
Before we start let me say first off I am no "Desticle" I have not bought TTK and I have no intention to do so until I see review scores and impressions that make me feel its worth my $40 purchase. So I am missing out on the new content just like you guys are. I don't drink the Kool Aid. I think that $40 for a DLC is a joke even if it is an "Expansion". I personally believe I am one of the most outspoken critics on the forums regarding TTK and its various scandals.
Then why am I bothering to post this you ask?
Because I believe in fairness and the ranting and raving I am seeing in thread after thread is not fair towards Bungie. It is a HUGE overreaction and the bombastic claims of being robbed of content and being scammed is just downright idiotic.
[b][u]You have not had any missions, strikes, raids, or weapons taken away from you that you have purchased. You can still play all the TDB missions/strikes, HoW missions/strikes and you can certainly still play the vanilla missions/strikes.
The same goes for the crucible. You still have every right to play the maps that you have already paid for in the classic playlists in the crucible. [/u][/b]
The only thing you have been locked out of is new endgame content like Nightfalls, Weeklies, Raid etc etc. That is not content that you bought that is a [i]FEATURE[/i] of the game. A feature that centers [i]around [/i]the latest content. When you bought TDB you bought the strikes, missions, gear etc etc and the Nightfall then took that content and featured it every week.
Now that TTK is the latest content the Nightfall now features THAT content. So no you don't get to do the Nightfall because the Nightfall features new content. Content that you have not paid for.
So please stop acting as if Bungie came into your game and pulled all of the missions and gear from your bleeding fingers and pissed on your Ghost. This is how expansion based games have operated for YEARS now. The new expansion comes out with new gear, new missions, and a new level cap. That new content is then featured front and center in every way and the old content is pushed off to the side.
WoW, Diablo, SWTOR etc etc have followed this design for years. This is not new and this not shocking. They did it for TDB and they did it for HoW, but they did it on a smaller scale because they were smaller packages. TTK is essentially Destiny 1 part 2. So of course its impact on the day to day functionality of the game is gonna be MUCH more noticeable and much more profound.
You paid for content.
You got that content.
You [i]still have[/i] that content.
You can still play that content.
[i]Features[/i] such as the endgame activities however will always be geared toward the latest content and if you don't have that content then you obviouslly cannot participate in the features that use that new content.
The same goes for the levelcap as well. You paid for the level-cap to be increased in each of the new DLC's that came out because they were TIED to that content and you need that gear in order to REACH that new cap. They have now raised it again and have tied that cap to the new gear.
Gear you don't have access to because you have not paid for it yet.
So of [i]COURSE[/i] the Vendors are going to be selling the latest and greatest gear. Do you honestly think that they should still be selling old level Vanilla gear like Shadow Price or The Devil You Know even though its been outclassed ages ago?
I understand that you are upset that your options are limited now because the content you bought is no longer[i] featured[/i], but don't sit their and claim that it is no longer there or that you no longer have access to it.
Because it is and you do.
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Completely agree here, though it is disappointing. All the original content - missions, strikes, maps - they are still there and playable in some form. Heroic and Nightfall are endgame features and add such teir to the most recent expansion. As such, if you have not got content permitting you to teach the required level, you would never be able to complete it anyway. I fully appreciate the lack of mission modifiers, however. That's just plain annoying but was part of the year 2 change, not the TTK update (nitpicking, I know, but still the case). I don't pay crucible myself but I can also appreciate that the random selection of mode is also frustrating. If O ever have to touch crucible, I tend to stick with control and not having the option to only pay control would bug me. Nonetheless, while some alterations are a pain, especially for vanilla players, endgame features always rise to current expansions in games with expansion models. While Destiny is not an MMO, it shares some of the same models, this being one of them. All games have a lifespan. Once I complete something, I tend to set it aside and then maybe play again later for nostalgic reasons. If I do not want to purchase expansions, I stop playing. You've had a year for Destiny before these major changes, and if you came really late to the game, it is on part your own fault for lack or research and patience. Had you waited until this version launched, we would not have so many complainers. It's not like these changes were a surprise. Add to that, you never actually own a game anymore. You lease the right to play it for as long as the developer sees fit. Online games could have their servers sit down tomorrow and it's tough. For other games, all it takes is one update to potentially sit the game down, though as it doesn't cost developers anything for offline games this doesn't happen (that I know of). Sorry for the wall of text... TL;DR - all the original content is there. How you access it and the levels may have changed, and endgame teirs have moved on, but it is still there. You ate not locked out of/restricted from playing the base game.
