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originally posted in:Collective Of Knowledge
Edited by Bee:
9/22/2015 3:32:10 PM
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Well... The Worms being Ahamkara I am 100% with, anyone who disagrees has no better idea or evidence to back it up.
They even call the fricking things dragons in this grimoire.
Taox being the Speaker though, that's a stretch. We know that the Speaker is Human, and Taox is this "Krill" species. A biped with three eyes, not sure that's our Speaker.
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Edited by A Rising Wind: 9/22/2015 3:55:14 PMThere are two scenarios: worms = ahamkara or worms parasite have infected other species including ahamkara The "oh bearer of mine" is a dead give away. The description of Yul is very dragon like. Yet in the "id shut them all in cells.." card about dragons, he says our gods should be ours alone. Which could easily mean the dragon (ahamkara) contains the same worm parasite (God) as the hive. To say worm = ahamkara would imply that in the past guardians killed some of the hive gods, because we defeated the ahamkara. But yet Toland is trying to figure out the names of the hive gods after that happened. If we fought Yul or eir or akka or some other unnamed ahamkara, we wouldn't be so unsure about the hive or its origins, at least I think so I think all the book of sorrows says is that the worms, whose true nature and species is not known, commune directly with the darkness, and their parasite have infected at least the hive and ahamkara. I think there is interpretation for both. But you guys know a lot more than I on this
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With the points you have presented I think we can narrow it down to two possibilities. One, the Hive gods Ahamkara are special Ahamkara that have the ability to commune with the darkness, while other lesser Ahamkara were hunted down by Guardians, or two, that some sort of Darkness-infused parasite infected some Ahamkara and made them able to commune with the Darkness and able to do things normal Ahamkara wouldn't. I think the second one is a tad more contrived, but you never know. We really need to learn more about the Ahamkara to better understand their abilities and purposes, here's to hoping they get brought up sooner rather than to more likely later.
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Check again I said Taox could be the Speaker not the Traveler
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Oops, sorry. While I see why that theory could make sense, as I said the Speaker is Human.
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I don't think we do know that the Speaker is human. Have you read his grimoire card? I see nothing about being a human. In fact all it does it make him seem even more mysterious and less understood than we thought.
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I remember seeing somewhere that he was human, even then he's obviously a male.
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Gender doesn't seem to mean much with the krill people/hive. Oryx was a female too at one point but it's been millennia and Taox isn't exactly trying to be recognizable as who they once were. Where else would they go to flee from the Hive? And I don't put much credence in "I know I saw it somewhere once" arguments. You can go read the Speaker card right now and see that nowhere does it mention any race or point of origination for the Speaker.
