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They're not the same without bungie though.
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Who cares have you seen how halo 5 looks? Amazing and the beta was fun
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4 was a huge let down and looks don't make a game. I'll try it out when it releases though
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Beta wasn't looks tho it was full on fun gameplay. And they showed a huge amount of gameplay and so far it looks way better then 4. Graphics are amazing and gameplay is fast and fun. Halo 4 campaign was nice but something about multiplayer was meh. Forge was improved and I liked that but the maps were kinda medium if not small and they even had no human air crafts for multiplayer. Halo 5 so far has a 20v20vNPC aka war zone which looks fun as hell! And they have yet to show forge but the forge maps they made on the beta were really sweet.