Exactly I joined 3 groups last night that claimed to have killed oryx before but no one had emblem or primary but it's their other characters that beat it. Yeah ok. Half way in and chaos then you hear how do you guys do this part cause you might have different strat. Meaning I have no idea what to do but don't want to look like an ass. some people just want to be carried through. I get nobody wants to waste 8 hrs in a raid but if you don't know what to do don't claim to just so you can find a group easier. Look up a youtube video at least. Sorry but from now on I ask for proof of beating the raid. Wasted way too much time already trying to teach people and then you have the ones that refuse to learn the strat then bitch every time they die and they blame the death on someone else. So frustrating.