VoG the only fight I knew was Atheon because my first time raiding was with a group at atheon that had been trying for awhile and lost a member. The rest of the vault with my team (which is now mostly my clan) was just figuring it out and having fun and thats why we still play the vault just for fun occasionally today. Its a shame so many noobs coming into the game won't experience the VoG (good on them for not having to do crota IMO). But nonetheless both raids made for a much more experienced player and they were fun.