Bladedancers were the bane of the crucible in fall of 2014. Invisible, damage reduction, fast, and instant killing. Till people figured out Felwinter's Lie and Fist of Panic. People found the counter. Most of the time it was a powerful shotgun with 1 or 2 shots would stop a bladedancer.
Bladerdancers and Sunbreakers are the same thing. You are just seeing more sunbreakers because they are new. There are plenty of counters to the Sunbreaker. Its just going to be a while before people settle on the best.
1. Hammer of Sol is broadcasts itself clearly- consider running. That titan is going to be aggressive, out run them or hide and then ambush them when it wears off.
2. Nova Bomb or Fist of Havoc-Yeah, they will just get killed out right with these cancelling supers
3. Shadowshot- Silence them, this turns off all supers
4. Rockets are the answer to everything.
5. SNIPERS- If shotguns are the answer to the bladedancer snipers are the answer to a HoS. Hammers fall quick and are only useful up to medium range. If you are killed at long range by a hammer... they got lucky or you didn't move.
6. Good old group fire.
All these tactics except snipers will work well on a Sunbreaker, just switch sniper with shotgun and they work well on Bladedancers too.
EDIT: Bladedancers were barely touched in the year they have been out. and when the most significant nerf happened it wasn't to the class or the super it was to a jump ability that is used by 2 classes. Bladedancers still have a great super for PVP and just like Sunbreakers are average in end game PVE. The damage reduction of the bladedancer is more than enough that if you don't have a high impact shotgun, super, or heavy, they are going to kill you. Guess what 3 things also take out a sunbreaker? in a super?
EDIT 2: Note there is legendary armor that boosts defense even more when using a solar sub class. If a Titan (who already has the most armor in the game) stacked Solar Sub-Class armor + Highest Defense Rating + Armor Buff when using HoS (which is a % of total armor). YES a Titan can become a super tank. That doesn't mean its broken it means that player has a better build than yours.
EDIT 3: [url]http://xboxclips.com/GHOST+9o5/b6f770f4-fe93-4f9a-8e94-23c5e342e9f1[/url]- High Impact snipers require 1 Crit+ extra to drop a SunBreaker in super. However Sunsingers regularly take a shotgun to the face and live [url]https://youtu.be/bq_mPCWeylc[/url]. Also lets not forget that group fire is no match for a blade dancer [url]https://youtu.be/LIFFy-OYOUY[/url]
[u][b]EDIT 4: Sunbreakers can barely survive a single Golden Gun Shot[/b][/u] [url]https://youtu.be/7-lVT6W9eSA?t=7m[/url] Time to Buff GG in PVP. HOWEVER we do not know what armor this Sunbreaker is wearing. There is armor that buffs solar sub classes and/or reduces solar damage.
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Nope was never op
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You mean like a month ago?
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Well said OP!! It's like common sense isn't common anymore... rare sense perhaps??
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This is good but it'll just fall on deaf whiny ears I'm afraid.
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Don't you mean 2 months ago?
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I still see twice as many hunters in crucible as I see titans. Hammer of sol has only killed me 4 times since release of ttk, bladedancer and golden gun have killed me over 20 times each. Just use your brain. Stop trying to run full sprint at a super
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[quote]Remember a year ago when Bladedancers were OP? [/quote] No - I remember a year ago when whiny guardians were claiming Bladedancers were OP, but never did one actually make a strong case outside of "He killed me! Bungie, nerf him!"
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Edited by Ranked1intrials: 9/28/2015 4:32:37 PMSniper can't kill them, a rocket can't kill them, a golden gun can't kill them, you can't get close enough to shot gun, a shadow shot doesn't stop their super on impact so by the time he finally gets tethered you're dead, a nova bomb would probably take to long to hit so you're dead, a group fire would literally get everyone there killed unless everyone is skilled enough to get snipe headshots or use rockets. nothing I mean nothing can kill a sunbreaker except a fist of panic if you get lucky enough to get close. So tell me how it's not op. I'll wait
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Finally a logical Sunbreaker post that doesn't make me lose brain cells, hats off to you sir
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What? No, it was because it was ninja-nerfed.
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They nerfef bladdancer damage reduction do some research
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Edited by Blackliukang: 9/28/2015 5:17:09 PMThanks you for making this post instead of crying about how OP shit is when it's clearly not Bump
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Thank you
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Those were the days. I remember I kicked major ass in crucible as a bladedancer with Suros Regime.
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Edited by SurrealSoReal: 9/28/2015 4:18:54 PMBut a Bladedancer can eat a rocket to the face... And live. So by the same logic sunbreakers should be able to take 1-2 rockets.
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Remember when titans didn't act like y1 hunters?
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I use defender for PvP Weapons of light Thorn/ Efrideets Spear
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Lol except blade dancer did get nerfed and the and could never survive 2 sniper head shots or a golden gun shot, nor does it have the AoE effect to consistently take out groups at any range.
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Yeah only arc blade got nerfed
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they were never OP imo
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Bump because you actually make sense
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Bump, you have solid logic
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I still use Defender in PvP.
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I have nightmares about them. ;-; I cri ery tiem