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originally posted in:Collective Of Knowledge
Edited by Circadian Wolf:
10/1/2015 2:38:31 AM
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The books of sorrow are lies?
The books are awesome and the info we've gained from them even moreso but I came across a little bit of text in one that sheds doubt on it all.
From the sorrow card Dreadnaught:
[quote]Sayeth Oryx,
Go out into the universe, my court
Gather tribute for me. Send it home to my ship.
When I call you, walk up that tribute to my court.
I will prepare for long voyages — [I am Savathûn, insidious]
Into the war — [I graffiti this notice for you]
Into the Deep — [These Books are full of lies!][/quote]
So from that we get:
[I am Savathûn, insidious]
[I graffiti this notice for you]
[These Books are full of lies!]
What does she mean? There must be at least some truth in the books or it would be near pointless bungie making them into grimoire for us only to take it all back at a later date. We also have the possibility that Savathun is simply lying herself, she is the ultimate trickster after all. But if there is truth in what she says we must find out what she is referring to and whether it is meant to trick us or the Oryx's brood.
Haven't made much headway yet, wanted to post it first to see what conspiracies you guys can come up with.
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4 RepliesHold on there! Don't jump to conclusions! The Books of Sorrow are not lies: hear me out here. You are mistaking [i]bias[/i] as [i]lies[/i]! Think about this: the Books of Sorrow follow Oryx's perspective. They follow his life exclusively, even though it does frequently involve the other sisters. That said, everything written in the Books is what is true to Oryx. Now on to your graffiti. Savathun has a bias of her own: this graffiti is obviously hers. Therefore, we can only assume that [i]she[/i] sees these books as full of lies: probably because the Books only follow Oryx's perspective, and don't give full credit to his sisters. In conclusion, these books aren't lies: this passage is the result of conflicting biases.
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Okay, just going on the wild premise that the books are all lies... I don't think that'd be a waste of Bungie's time at all. I think it makes their universe more dynamic. Gamers in general seem to have this preconception that anything that's written in a game is the 100% gospel and that it's in no way colored by the author who wrote it. I think it'd be a wild idea that there's this entire history book in a game that gets it wrong, or only tells one side of the story. Hell, we have that joke of "I read it on the Internet so it must be true." I think it'd be great to have that sort of dynamic in a fictional universe. Plus, it gives Bungie an out if they want/need to change some details to work better in the story they want to tell.
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I think they're 'true', but perhaps only from Oryx's point of view. Perhaps she read these books and was horrified that she seemed portrayed as somewhat a 'bad guy', and she thought it was all lies. Or maybe she thinks that all the philosophy presented in the books are not how she sees them, thereby 'lies' to her.
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What I gathered from reading that card was they where doing things in reverse, kind of like opposite day.
