[quote]Well isn't it the same with squares and rectangles? And your definition of paradox is screwed up[/quote] Well, yes and no. I think what we are quibbling over is whether we mean "same features, just smaller scale" vs "same core features, plus or minus a lot more" A man is more than a large child, in that he is also smarter. The paradox is when we switch between definitions mid way. If a 5 foot square is just a larger 3 foor square, nothing changed but scale, it would be a paradox to say that yet the original 3 foot square is more than just a smaller version of that 5 foot square, since we already said they were the same before but now we are saying they are different. But I think what you meant is that the traveller fits in the servator category, yet has so many more features on top of that. Which is a good point, the traveler could teraform and our ghosts do not. But is that just a matter of scale? Did it just transmat materials around the same way our ghosts bring us I not out ships?