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Edited by AYRES: 10/18/2015 4:26:49 PM
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Sunbreaker is Too Strong w/proof

Defend this please. This post will probably be ignored since there is no defence for how ridiculously OP this class is. Edit: Lots of support actually. Thank you to everyone who is capable of thinking rationally. Edit: Thank you for the discussion. Unfortunately I do not have time to talk to all of you. As for the state of the sunbreaker class I remain unconvinced that it is balanced. Edit: Was Trending briefly, lets keep it up Edit: 1400 replies not a single one has had a convincing or reasonable point to suggest that sunbreaker is balanced. Get ready for the nerf hammer titans. Edit: 2000 replies not a single valid point suggesting why this class is balanced. You lose titans enjoy the nerf.

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  • Need some salt with that whine?

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    • The Sunbreaker super may be op but thats the classes best ability. Bladedancers had a glitched melee, blink, and a excellent super and arcbolt grenade. The titan melee still sucks, grenades are ok and lift is ok. Its ok for a subclass to have a superstrong super that you get 2-3 times per game.

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    • Every time I see one of these posts I just laugh to myself a little bit. I can't believe after year 1 of pvp and even now actually people have the audacity to say sunbreakers are OP. Ridiculous.

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      • Whine, whine, whine.

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      • Can't we all just kill each other and like it?

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        • Warlocks have a multi kill super(s) as well... Your point? And yeah sunbreaker lasts 26 seconds but that's only if you don't throw hammers. What Titan do you know walks around for 26 seconds without throwing a hammer. Cut 26 seconds down to like 10-11ish if you're throwing hammers rapidly...

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            Golden gun too OP plz nerf or at least cut down range

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          • =-o gunslinger 1 shots in crucible zomg we must vote to get that nerfed. Too damn op.

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          • hahah lv 34 titan listen here mate noone complained when the bladedancers n golden guns were dominating last year's crucibles so let them feel what's it like to b huntard

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            • The rest of Sunbreaker sucks though

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            • So wat I'm getting at is that- People killed by sunbreakers People call it op People cry nerf I sit down and eat popcorn reading comments

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              • Here is the easiest defense. Why aren't everyone in the crucible titans? If you cannot play against it why three weeks in isn't everyone a titan? If their super is so over power and you cannot possibly play against it and whine all the time about it then why aren't there 100% titans in crucible? http://destinytracker.com/destiny/population look at that link three weeks in 33% crucible (of 10,000) is titans 11% are sun breakers and of the crucible super kills 7% total kills you have nothing stop complaining. you can fight against the sun breaker its not a problem. when thorn received its OP buff everyone in crucible had to use it and did use it because no one could fight against it. your argument is invalid. OH and before i forget ★  .  * . .  ¸ .   °  ¸. * ● ¸ . ...somewhere   ° ☾ °  ¸. ● ¸ . ☾ ☆ ¸. ¸  ★  :.  . • ○ ° ★  .  * . .  ¸ .   °  ¸. * ● ¸ .    ° ☾ °  ¸. ● ¸ .  ★ ° :.  . • °  .  *   °  ¸. * ● ¸ .    ° ☾ °  ¸. ● ¸ .  ★ ° :.  . • °  .  *  ★ ° :.  . • °  .  * :. . ¸ . ● ¸    ★ ☾ ☆ ¸. ¸  ★  :.  . • ○ ° ★  .  * . .  ¸ .  ★☾ °★ .     .  °☆  . ● ¸ .   ★ ° .  • ○ ° ★  .       * .  ☾ °  ¸. ...in this universe* ● ¸     ° ☾ °☆  . * ¸.   ★ ★ ° . .    . ☾ °☆  . * ● ¸ .   ★ ° :.  . • ○ °★  .  * .      .  °  . ● .    ° ☾ °☆  ¸.● .  ★  ★ ° ☾ ☆ ¸. ¸  ★  :.  . • ○ ° ★  .  * . . .  . • ○ °★  .  * .      .  °  . ● .    ° ☾ °☆    ★ °  . • ○ ° ★  .  * ¸ ...within the constellations   ° ☾ ★ ° . .    . ☾ °☆  . ● ¸ .    ° ☾ °  ¸. ● ¸ .  ★ ° :.  . • °  .  * :. . ¸ . ● ¸    ★  ★☾ °★ .   ★ ° . .    . ☾ °☆  . * ● ¸ .   ★ ° :.  . • ○ °...there is someone   °  . ● .    ° ☾ °☆  ¸.● .  ★  ★ ° ☾ ☆ ¸. ¸  ★  :.  . • ○ ° ★  .  * . .  ¸ .   °  ¸. * ● ¸ .    ° ☾ °  ¸. ● ¸ .  ★ ° :.  . • °  .  *☾ ★ ° . .    . ☾ °☆  . * ● ¸ .   ★ ° :.  . • ○ ° ★  .  * .      .  °  . ● .    ° ☾ °☆  ¸.● .  ★  ★ ° ☾ ☆ ¸. ¸  ★  :.  . • ○ ° ★  .  * . .  ¸ .   °  ¸. * ● ¸ .    ° ☾ °..who has already said that. ¸. ● ¸ .  ★ ° :.  . • °  .  * :. . ¸ . ● ¸    ★  ★☾ °★ .   ★ ° . .  °  . ● .    ° ☾ °☆  ¸.● .  ★  ★ ° ☾ ☆ ¸. ¸  ★  :.  . • ○ ° ★  .  * . .  ¸ .   °  ¸. * ● ¸ .    ° ☾ °  ¸. ● ¸ .  ★ ° :.  . • °  .  *☾ ★ ° . .    . ☾ °☆  . * ● ¸ .   ★ ° :.  . • ○ ° ★  .  * .      .  °  . ● .    ° ☾ °☆  ¸.● .  ★  ★ ° ☾ ☆ ¸. ¸  ★  :.  . • ○ ° ★  .  * . .  ¸ .   °  ¸. * ● ¸ ° ☾ ☆ ¸. ¸  ★  :.  . • ○ ° ★  .  * . .  ¸ .   °  ¸. * ● ¸ . ...And I just wanted to tell you   ° ☾ ★ ° . .    . ☾ °☆  . * ● ¸ .   ★ ° :.  . • ○ ° ★  .  * .      .  °  . ● .    ° ☾ °☆  ¸.● .  ★  ★ ° ☾ ☆ ¸. ¸  ★  :. ★☾ °★ .   ★ ° . .  °  . ● .    ° ☾ °☆  ¸.● .  ★  ★ ° ☾ ☆ ¸. ¸  ★  :.  . • ○ ° ★  .  * . .  ¸ .   °  ¸. * ● ¸ .    ° ☾ °  ¸. ● ¸ .  ★ ° :.  . • °  .  *☾ ★ ° . .    . ☾ °☆  . * ● ¸ .  ...no one cares.  ★ ° :.  . • ○ ° ★  .  * .      .  °  . ● .    ° ☾ °☆  ¸.● .  ★  ★ ° ☾ ☆ ¸. ¸  ★  :.  . • ○ ° ★  .  * . .  ¸ .   °  ¸. * ● ¸ ° ☾ ☆

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                • Where do I get this item you call Rekt?

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                  • Imagine If......

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                  • Dude this is irrelevant. Why you may ask? Thats because titan is master race , we are allowed to have the most OP special ability. #TITANMASTERRACE

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                    • Why the f[b]u[/b]ck are you complaining night stalker can take away our super If you don't like running the class wup better sacrifice those golden gun shots

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                      • Edited by Red Motive: 10/7/2015 10:15:31 PM
                        Decent review but: > Golden Gun can one shot Hammer of Sol if they either a) have a low armour build or b) you get a headshot > Hammer of Sol is pretty easy to run away from, unlike Golden Gun thanks to the travel time and arc of the hammers. This is where the long duration comes in. At longer ranges you have to account for this arc too which increases the skill gap at long range plus it can be avoided easily unlike Golden Gun which also comes with aim assist and combustion > Hammer of Sol can not kill most supers in one hammer > If you're missing hammers your Hammer of Sol will drain extremely quick. With Forgemaster not as much but still fairly quick > Sunbreaker's Skill Tree is extremely focused on the Super and as a result has a weaker neutral game than the other Subclasses. So during the majority of each game the Sunbreaker tends to be at a slight disadvantage I agree with the Stormcaller thing. It can last for ages with Transendence and that combined with Ionic Blink and Landfall it's ridiculous. Personally I think the armour is fine especially considering it's a Titan but maybe the duration does need a little tweaking. Cauterize did sound fair but I need to see it in practice. These nerfs will effect PvE which I do not like however.

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                        • [quote]So explain this? You stated an opinion. Here are the facts. Not my post [quote]http://destinytracker.com/destiny/population PvP melee kills: 1) Stormcaller 2) Nightstalker 3) Sunbreaker PvP super kills: 1) Nightstalker 2) Sunbreaker 3) Stormcaller PvP grenade kills: 1) Nightstalker 2) Stormcaller 3) Sunbreaker Placing: Nightstalker (1,1,2) Stormcaller (1,2,3) Sunbreaker (2,3,3) So... Are you saying we need to nerf the least effective PvP subclass? For those of you who are illiterate and/or lazy, here are the demographical breakdown of the Crucible: ~32% play as Titan, ~8% play as [b][i]Sunbreakers[/i][/b] ~34% play as Warlock, 7% play as [b][i]Stormcallers[/i][/b] ~34% play as Hunter, ~9% play as [b][i]Nightstalkers[/i][/b] You were saying about differences in how many play which class? Sorry, I wasn't listening to your irrelevant biased opinions. Good luck finding evidence of Sunbreakers being OP. Oh, and just a little FYI, anecdotes aren't considered evidence- anywhere, just because you and your friend(s) had your asses handed to you doesn't mean the subclass is broken or OP, it means you're shit and need to [i][b]git gud[/b][/i] (as you said whenever a warlock/titan complained about Gunslinger/Bladedancer being OP [b][i][u]for a full year before the nerf actually came[/u][/i][/b]).[/quote][/quote]

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                          • The super is over 25 seconds? Damn...

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                          • Op is ogre porn

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                          • Get rekt hunters who say sunbreaker is OP http://xboxclips.com/draycole/4c5b9af0-46c5-42b6-8af9-083af171afa1

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                            • You're comparing a super that has a set timer with one who's time in super depends on how many charges you use, you lose time by normal decay AND by using your super. You can pop all 4(cuz symbiote always) at the last 2 seconds. If you've got 2 seconds with hammer, you've got 1 hammer. You also can't 1 hit someone clear across the map with hammer of sol. Either way,youre all just whiny ignorantly biased idiots that don't think even remotely outside the box. This is coming from someone who mains a Hunter by the way. [spoiler]eat me[/spoiler]

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                              • Another one of these....

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                              • As a scrubby Thorn and Felwinters user for all of year 1.. This new sunbreaker is my favorite new oP subclass. A guaranteed 5+ kills a match. Won't last long tho, Bungle is well aware of the over powered super.

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                              • Eat a dick.

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