Defend this please. This post will probably be ignored since there is no defence for how ridiculously OP this class is.
Edit: Lots of support actually. Thank you to everyone who is capable of thinking rationally.
Edit: Thank you for the discussion. Unfortunately I do not have time to talk to all of you. As for the state of the sunbreaker class I remain unconvinced that it is balanced.
Edit: Was Trending briefly, lets keep it up
Edit: 1400 replies not a single one has had a convincing or reasonable point to suggest that sunbreaker is balanced. Get ready for the nerf hammer titans.
Edit: 2000 replies not a single valid point suggesting why this class is balanced. You lose titans enjoy the nerf.
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You don't have to keep attacking titans, although I don't see why you would in the first place ~A Hunter
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i just head shot a sunbreaker with a sniper and it worked.
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http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/Jamessod/video/11447853 a friends clip. He uses it because it's OP
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Nah it's really not OP, normal if anything. I've slaughtered titans even during their sunbreaker supercharge with my knife or shotgun or even my own super lol
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Jump and don't engage. Bam. Easy avoiding Hammer of Sol and baiting strat. Also I could only make it five minutes into the video. I don't know if the maker just got out of dental surgery, was gargling cum, or if his recording equipment was just shit, but I couldn't make it through. The only significant thing related to Sunbreaker in the first five minutes were five Guardians electing to engage the Hammer of Sol user instead of doing something sensible like running away.
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Does anyone else notice that these people are all scrubby Hunters who still use golden gun? I mean, your super that instantly kills the enemy it hits and traps others around them and shuts down supers is good, and somehow Titans are the problem.
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Edited by ReedY101: 10/9/2015 7:03:53 AMI've only just noticed it really as I've been playing crucible more to prepare for iron banner. I'm putting it down to I was in mayhem that there were so many hammers flying around. The only problem I have is the Health buff they have it took a golden gun shot with nighthawk helm to take one out every other thing I tried fails. I'm not to bothered with it to be honest I can take any classes power away and that's pretty op in itself
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See hunter in the video...walks away
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Ah sunbreakers, i remember those. Warlock exotic gauntlets that were complete trash.
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Thank you for reminding me that there are smart people still in the community.
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It seems like the counters to all these new supers and most old ones is to shoot them from a distance
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This isn't a question of the HoS only. You need to look into the subclass as well as the class itself. For example an I'll use the striker. It's super in pvp usually yields around 2 kills and that's being generous. However to compensate for this strikers have lightning grenade, (which is arguably the best grenade in the game) shoulder charge, and transfusion. All of these skills combined makes up for the lack of a good super. The same can be said for other classes such as bladedancers with blink and quickdraw or sunsingers with firebolt grenades and flame shield. Now we can take a look at sunbreakers. We have cauterize (which is mainly used for HoS but we'll include it in the list anyway) which only consistently helps when using fusion grenades and ever then it is situational, and maybe fleetfire you could count however there are upgrades on armor that do a better job such as getting a double kill with a solar weapon increases agility. Besides these two perks which aren't very viable in the crucible all of our skills revolve around HoS. Therefore sunbreakers have to have a good super because of our lack of a solid pvp loadout. I agree that the damage resistance should be reduced to that of bladedancer but other than that i see no problems because it acts as a counterbalance to the rest of the subclass. Also if you would like to go deeper into this titans have a terrible melee range in comparison to other classes which sets us back farther than say a hunter or warlock. If anyone would like to discuss this with me in a respectable manner i would love to hear other people's thoughts after reading this (:
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Destiny Crucible- Titan Sunbreaker DENIED: http://youtu.be/snP7wbcwvZc
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Edited by Vial: 10/8/2015 1:47:26 AMIts about damn time titans became powerful, everyone using their supers to shut us down. Now we are shutting you down and you cry about it, well too bad, we suffered a lot by hunters and warlocks. Now you all suffer, and why nerd it? its a beautiful super in the King's Fall and the other 2 raids. All you think about is pvp, the game wasn't only pvp based. Stop being a waste of guardian and go do a strike with sun breakers. Every time i raid, all i see are sun breakers and nightstalkers, coming together in harmony. You are not a veteran. your a noob Edit: Someone get this Lindow318 kid out of my comments? He's on my cabals
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Edited by Thezzanman: 10/9/2015 4:31:08 AMI tell ya what... Not every Titan runs those armor perks... I hate pvp but played a little today, and I was killed during my super several times. Was killed by: Another hammer Golden Gun Nova Bomb 1000 yard stare. So don't you try and -blam!-ing tell me Titans can't be killed mid super. And the time thing... It's 20 sec, 27 max with no hammers thrown. Pretty sure all the new supers are supposed to be better/ last longer
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Edited by Kabr: 10/9/2015 5:52:32 AMDo you have Autism, Aspergers Or did you get brain damage somehow in your life? The saltiness of hunter tears seasons my delicious super all the much more. Personally I think that you can eat a massive chode. Have a great day and remember when you hear the clang I'll be sure to drop you some of deez nuts so you can enjoy your just deserts. Hunter tears +1 All the replies lmao.
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Can we buff defender then? Still my favorite.
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Reported, you filthy hunter
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You are pointing out a problem. Good Now what is your solution?
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Haha you're a little bitch. Even after a nerf, they will still slam your face in with a hammer. Sucks hunters aren't the best in pvp anymore huh? Exactly. Eat a dick you sniveling bitch
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I hate all this [quote]bump only once guys[/quote] bs. You are all fágs.
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I think sunbreaker is going to be nerfed before trials.
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People actually care about this shit? If you don't like it, be a titan, no-one is stopping you. I don't care if you don't want to be a titan, tough shit. Signed, A Warlock.
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Edited by John6Max4: 10/9/2015 3:11:54 AM[quote]I'll say it before and I'll say it again. The only viable change I'd make to Hammer of Sol is changing it from third-person perspective to first-person perspective. Sunbreakers simply move too fast, have too much health, and their hammers have too much range and blast radius and one-hit kill potential AND to have them be able to quickly turn the camera, know where you are and throw a hammer without even facing you?! Nah son. First-person wouldn't solve all problems but it'd put more factors into Hammer of Sol like getting used to the hammers arc throw and have to only ever see what's directly in front of you like the other ranged super, GG and titans would have to be quicker at acquiring targets while turning in first-person all the while still having to aim their hammers more accurately. So no changes to the hammers. No changes to health. Just make Hammer of Sol first-person. Pretty reasonable for everyone no?[/quote]
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Stupid posts by stupid people get stupid results