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originally posted in: Sunbreaker is Too Strong w/proof
10/7/2015 10:35:53 PM
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Sunbreaker its OP because of the fact that the only counter you have againts them is to run or kill them with your super " if " you are supercharged when the sunbreaker pops their super.They can throw as many hammers as they can while their super is active and regen health on each kill, not to mention you barely have to aim at your target to actually hit them.
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  • what was the counter the blade dancer its kill them or be killed and no you could not run form them

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  • Sounds like the same counter for Bladedancers and GG.

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  • you cant run form a blade dancer they have movement speed dash blink and they lunge forward when they strike

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  • I also agreed that another super was a good counter not just running. Does everybody just see the run part in op's counters?

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  • Wait what? You run from a golden gunner and an arc blader?

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  • No, I avoid them unless its to my advantage. I don't charge into supers.

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  • I never said charge, but running is just dumb. It lets them super your entire team

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  • I didn't feel like writing a whole paragraph and just kept it simple. I never said "run", op said "run or counter with a super", which I then said how that was the same counter to other supers. You just went with the run part.

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  • How can you run from goldengun lmao they will kill you. You have to hide or kill them.

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  • No shit.

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  • Then why did you post such waste of time?

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  • Look really hard at what op said about running or countering with another super. Then look really hard at my reply about how BOTH were a counter to GG and Bladedancer. Now look really hard for the part where I just said "run". Can't find it can you? Please don't waste my time with any reply,

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  • O'Reilly counter is to run from sunbreaker. Yours is the same for blades ancestors and golden gun...

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  • Exactly what I'm saying. Hide around a corner and sneak attack. They are super weak when you're up close. Also, nades!

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  • Who runs from bladedances and golden gun anymore ?

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  • Do you run towards Nova bombs or try to smother fusion grenades out?

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  • [quote]try to smother fusion grenades out?[/quote] I can imagine them adding that feature. "Rapidly press A/X to smother grenade!" Or you need a certain emote to do it. Loving the comparison tho XD

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  • See, I can talk to you. You know how to have a discussion, these other people...

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  • Except you can easily kill Bladedancers and Golden Gun... 1 Hammer= Death for BD and GG. If the blade dancer can get anywhere near the Sunbreaker, which is unlikely, it takes 2-3 Arc Blade hits to kill. If you have the right setup, you can survive a Golden Gun shot as a Subreaker. Same cannot be said for Hunters. Have you ever blocked a Golden Gun shot using your exotic sword? It's possible! Have you even blocked a Hammer of Sol hammer using an exotic sword? Nope, it can't be done. There's really nothing you can say that doesn't make the Sunbreaker OP. Actually, if there is something you can say, I'm up for a debate. I love 'em!

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  • I have blocked a HOS hammer with my sword thank you..

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  • Edited by UnspokenNumber0: 10/8/2015 1:02:14 AM
    Why would you charge into a super that has aoe damage? To avoid a hammer you need to keep distance. Armor now has elemental buffs as well, more armor while using solar class is what I would use. Once again why are people trying to take a super head on? You may win a few but most of the time ANY super will win. A sword may block a GG because its a targeted projectile while a hammer has aoe, have you tried blocking a rocket? Better yet, have you tried blocking a Nova bomb with a sword? Let me know how that turns out.

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  • You can block 2 rockets and live.

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  • Did not know that. Sounds like swords could use a nerf then as well.

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  • I'm aware of the AoE damage, but like others have stated, the hammers have a fairly large blast radius. You could try and block it from 5 feet in front of me and you'll still die. I don't do this myself, I'm just bringing up the fact that the only super that can be blocked is GG. Supers like Arc Blade, GG, GoS, FoH, and Nova bomb are one hit kills when they hit the target. GG is no longer a OHK, making it significantly weaker. I'm not saying that it doesn't make sense, I'm saying that it is not "balanced."

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  • I don't take any super (other than Hunters') head on. I keep my distance, yes. But when you can charge any super and kill them fairly easily, or shoot them with a golden gun, they die. Except Sunbreakers. Everybody is forced to run away from HoS while Sunbreakers chase after every other super. Unless you're a Titan (or voidwalker), you are easily killed while using your super. So imagine a Super Vs Super. HoS v GG- HoS will most likely come out on top HoS v Bladedancer- pretty much a joke. HoS v... You get the idea. I did have this amazing moment of me killing a Sunbreaker, though. I'll probably upload it and post it on the forums. I recorded it on my phone, but I'd rather you get a good quality video ;-;

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