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Edited by Andrenden:
10/9/2015 11:26:29 AM
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[quote]You clearly said "Missing jumps like an asshole"
I would not count the jumping in sisters or oryx as a jumping puzzle.
I think this term is the preserve of the pendulums, ships and piston area.
These are the areas people need support.[/quote] actually what I said was
[quote]You can point out the same ledge they keep missing like an asshole[/quote] as in YOU can point out the ledge that they keep missing like an asshole. The act of you pointing it out would be exactly like what an asshole would do. Not sure how you still don't understand that the fact you treat them like they are stupid by pointing out the ledges that they keep missing their jumps on makes you appear like an asshole.
And for all your examples... Tombships are the only "puzzle" in that case. Every other jump is quite literally a path you follow. You can apply the same thing to the pendulums with you trying to point out the ledge and it would further my point. They know where to jump on a majority of these *I'll concede to tombships as that's a puzzle* and doing something like pointing out a ledge in all these when the issue is the person just can't make the jumps, the jumps they KNOW, is just going to frustrate them even more.
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I think we are both at cross purposes here. I'm not saying you should repeatedly tell someone they are doing it wrong. What I'm saying is rather than watching someone go wrong and telling them what to do or shooting. Go back to the start with them. It's easier to make a jump when you have someone to follow. And you saying the piston room is a path, it's only a path if you know the route.
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Piston room is just a path. You go straight and there you hit what appears to be a dead end, except there's platforms going across the gap, with nowhere else to go one will assume this is the way. It's a path. You'll follow that and your path will end up going left. You follow that to the next dead end, you turn around and yet again there's only one direction to go *unless someone is just going to retrace their steps* And idk, I still think just flaunting your jumping skills in their face is more harm than good. Like I said, they know the jump they just can't make it. It's not a simple case of "monkey see, monkey do" there's no eureka moment of "Oh! I'm suppose to press X to get over that gap!" *which is the kind of thing I had been referring to when I was saying that pointing out the ledge would be an asshole thing, because it's obvious and they are trying it already*
