Before ttk all the coolest weapons were blocked behind ToO , but the pvpers said "you've got the prison and two raids , deal with it" Which I understand their sentiment but its not fair, best exotic shotty , gotta get 2.0's and up for about 3-5 games to get through the first step with a shitty handcannon equipped the whole time.. I'm also almost 100% positive that ToO this year will offer better gear and weapons then the current raid (atleast in the looks department) I can agree , I'm average at pvp but I absolutely hate having to play it especially when it's laggy and I'm matchmade with players who are way better then myself .. Seriously not enjoyable at all