Shoulder charge isn't in the melee tree. You still have to be in the face to kill with it, and considering shotguns still have ridiculous range it's easy to kill a guy using shoulder charge.
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I never said it was in the melee tree. You said they had poor sub classes apart from the supers. I disagreed. Granted sun breaker is all about its super but striker is a pretty damn solid sub class for pvp even without a super. But yes I agree shotguns can be a joke when you try shoulder charge. I was just trying to make a point that Titans aren't that worthless if they don't have a super.
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I just think they are at a far bigger disadvantage compared to the other two. Warlocks definitely have the best passive abilities but hunters are no joke, titans however are the laughing stock of crucible. That's why the top players are using warlocks and hunters