I've been putting this all over the forums and will continue to do so until Bungie takes notice.
Let's take Fatebringer as an example. I did not use Fatebringer because it deals Arc damage. Sure, in the appropriate Nightfall, I'd use Fatebringer. But for all other content, I used Fatebringer because it has amazing abilities. Firefly + Outlaw + Field Scout is incredible. That's why I used Fatebringer. Because it was awesome. The Arc damage was just a nice little bonus.
I would rather use a weapon with no elemental damage and great abilities, over a weapon with an elemental damage, but has average or mediocre abilities. Why do you think people are trying to grind out an Imago Loop from the Undying Mind? It doesn't have an elemental damage. It's because it has a chance to drop with the two main Fatebringer abilities and that's why people want it.
Also, this nonsense about everyone ending up using the same weapons, is just that. Nonsense. That's going to happen anyway. A meta will set in either way and everyone will be using the same handful of weapons regardless. Give us a more viable variety of weapons if you want to give us a wider selection if weapons to choose from. Don't remove existing weapons. That's taking a step backwards, not forward.
One last thing to close this long post. Elemental primaries would be fine, I think, if they were better balanced. Don't give us another Fatebringer. Or VoC. Etc. Give elemental primaries more average or situational abilities. That way, they're still viable for burn activities, but not as viable for everyday activities. I feel like that is a better solution than simply removing them completely.
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Yes, I agree. There was no reason to remove elemental primaries b/c the skill of the gun made it OP. And yes, just nerf them a bit. All I wish they would understand is that people used their damn heads to do the nightfall some weeks, not the gun. If you put a burn on a strike or a nightfall, give me a gun to fight against that burn.
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It's definitely not a given that you'll even get those two perks on an Imago Loop. It's random perks. I'm gonna go on a limb here and say that the probability of getting outlaw and firefly is less than .01% chance
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Edited by MysticJon: 10/25/2015 3:35:38 PMI agree and yet there are still people out there grinding away at the Undying Mind trying to get the weapon. Which just goes to help prove my point. People want the weapon because it is a great weapon. Not because it has an elemental damage. In the case of Imago Loop, it doesn't have elemental damage and people still want one.
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Thanks for this I feel the same way about just about everything you said