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Edited by KRaSH24x7:
10/28/2015 2:43:13 PM
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In regards to this "Oryx Cheese"
Pushing Templar off=Cheese
Pushing Atheon off=Cheese
Having 1 man cross bridge=Cheese
Preventing Crota from standing up=Cheat
Using only 1 orb at golgoroth=Strategy
Not killing ogres at a particular time=Strategy
People are soo quick to throw out the word "cheese".......
We didn't end up using this strategy when we defeated oryx, always had a guy die on the way up.
We found an easier way where we had a titan floating with a blessing bubble in the middle between platforms with mallace.
Whoever didn't have to jump on pillar that cycle would join him in the middle to pop in and out of bubble melting ogres as they spawned.
Doing this along with some shots from the people on the pillars took down the ogres quick.
This gives plenty of time for they guys to turn and snipe their knights.
Runner should be saying that he has the relic by that point,
Everyone heads to middle, takes out vessel and shoots oryx.
Stagger, detonate bombs return to middle, shoot at his chest.
Rinse and repeat.
When you get teleported, if you can pop a blessing bubble it helps with the shade swinging.
Also an optional tip...having 1 guy run up to start the fight while the team stays back between platforms. Don't shoot the thtalls, you can let them come to you and bunch up. Hit them with a tether if you have a hunter. Once tethered, kill them all creating plenty of extra orbs for when needed.
Hope this was helpful.
Thanks for commenting
Wow 1000+ replies, for the most part, a lot of really good points have been pointed out..
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11 RepliesAnd -blam!- saying dps him, that doesn't even make sense! You guys, get ready to damage per second him! Like understand things before you say them dps is a stat not an action
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It's not a cheese n u don't have to kill vessel or eater Knights when using this method
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1 ReplyThank you for this. I'm the original guy that posted the video and came up with the strategy. Definitely didn't think this is a cheese. Just a better strat. Why work harder when you can work smarter.
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1 ReplyUmmm.... Shoot crota? typo?
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65 Repliesits cute how you cheesers defend that cheese so hard
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Idk I think it's a cheese... I'll put it this way, to me cheeses work around the mechanics of a fight. The MAIN mechanic that people struggled with during this fight was killing the light eater Knights, so what does this do? It works around the mechanics of the fight by eliminating the need to even see them anymore.
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1 ReplyI think this is a strategy, and tried it, but I've beat it on 2 of my characters and did it the way it was intended. We couldn't get this down though. But if your team is all 310+ it's just as easy to kill the light eaters and not have to worry about it. And plus my ogre at my totem wanted to go to where you spawn in every time so it was just irritating haha.
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1 ReplyThis strategy is worst than the normal one anyway. The 2 times I did it, we used normal one. When I tried this new strat with a group it was always a fail lol
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1 ReplyEdited by JHarv: 10/26/2015 9:58:55 PMIt's not a cheese when it makes it harder Did it last night pretty easily just playing normally. The Knights take like 1 snipe to the dome and another couple primary shots to kill. Leaving ogres up only runs the risk of them shooting people standing on the plates. All to bypass having to kill a red Knight...
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1 ReplyPlease god let there be poison on the deathsinger platforms in heroic mode. So these scrubs can git gud.
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Agree 1,000%. People get mad because they did it the way they always did and see someone found an easier way, so they assume it's cheesing it. Ridiculous.
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Honestly, my group is plenty good enough to down him the old way, so I'm going to avoid the cheese/strategy just so nobody judges me.
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Edited by TeddyBundy: 10/26/2015 9:44:03 PMA cheese is a tactic/strategy/trick that skips a certrain mechanic to make the fight at least a bit easier. Therefore it's a cheese. But it's still not easy to do and everyone has to know exactly what to do.
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Haven't been able to play hard mode yet, what's the supposed cheese strategy?
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I'll generalize this: The approach [i]my team[/i] uses: legitimate strategy The approach [i]other teams[/i] use: cheese that Bungie needs to fix because "scrubs" are getting easy loot
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1 ReplyIts a game Who gives a -blam!- Honestly u lot care too much about shite all
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But I like cheese.
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It's all about timing so if timing permits to stager oryx then kill orges and blow orbs then please all that think this is cheese use that and replace the orbs with a dick. That is all have a nice day.
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Well you see cheese is addicting
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10 RepliesANYONE THAT COMPLETED HM, CHEESED IT even if you did it legit you will be called a cheeser youre happy with that? yes or no
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The whole thing is hilarious. If it pisses nerds off, then you can call me Chuckie Cheese. I can't believe people are such losers that they really care how others play a game. I guess when your sense of worth is tied to virtual reality, you'll do anything to feel superior.
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1 ReplyCheesing and a great strategy are not mutually exclusive. I think the people who believe this strategy is a cheese are partly right and those who believe it is not a cheese are partly right. I think the one thing we can agree on though is that had bungie known about this strategy prior to the release of hard mode there would have been mechanisms in place to prevent it. That being said, congrats to the people who thought of it and also congrats to the people who are skilled enough to pull it off.
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3 RepliesBeat it the "regular way" twice&no knight strat this week. The [b]No Knight Strat[/b] is a little more complicated to me unfortunately :/
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3 RepliesWhat's this one orb strategy?
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I totally agree, this is not a cheese, just a brilliant strategy.
