So, I'll explain what this is in a bit, but first off let me say that [b]it does not matter whether or not you do not conduct in malicious activity online. This is an obstruction of personal privacy. Personal privacy is an inalienable human right,[/b] and this bill is helping the government slip by it quietly, without directly saying, "sup bro, we're just trying to gain full legal ability to invade your life and do whatever we want with this information, and don't worry, we don't even need to get your consent! We got you covered m8."
[b][i][u]What is CISA?[/u][/i][/b]
[quote] From: [url=http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/a-quick-guide-to-the-senate-s-newly-passed-cybersecurity-bill/]Scientific American:[/url]
The bill calls for government agencies, businesses and other organizations to share information about cybersecurity threats with one another. The thinking is that this shared information will help these different groups better prepare themselves to identify and defend against hackers trying to steal information from their computers. However, CISA in its current form does not clearly define how this information would be shared, who would manage such information or how it would be disseminated.
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[b][i][u]Why should I be concerned?[/u][/i][/b]
[quote] From: [url=http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/a-quick-guide-to-the-senate-s-newly-passed-cybersecurity-bill/]Scientific American:[/url]
Sen. Wyden and others have called CISA a “surveillance bill,” arguing that the NSA and other government agencies could use information shared by companies to spy on their customers. Critics say that the process of passing customer information to government agencies or other third parties creates new opportunities for data to be stolen. They also argue that the bill fails to address the real reasons hackers are able to steal data—including outdated software, malware and unencrypted files—and that because information sharing would be voluntary, a lack of participants could undermine the program.
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The Senate rejected three separate amendments that at least attempted to remove data that could identify individuals before sharing customer information, when that information is not necessary to describe or identify a cyber threat.* Earlier amendments gave participating companies legal protections from antitrust and consumer privacy lawsuits. And the government claims that information it receives will not be used to prosecute non-cyber related crimes.
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[quote] From: [url=http://www.wired.com/2015/10/cisa-cybersecurity-information-sharing-act-passes-senate-vote-with-privacy-flaws/?mbid=social_twitter]wired[/url]
Privacy advocates and civil liberties groups see CISA as a free pass that allows companies to monitor users and share their information with the government without a warrant, while offering a backdoor that circumvents any laws that might protect users’ privacy. “The incentive and the framework it creates is for companies to quickly and massively collect user information and ship it to the government,” says Mark Jaycox, a legislative analyst for the civil liberties group the Electronic Frontier Foundation. “As soon as you do, you obtain broad immunity, even if you’ve violated privacy law.”
The version of CISA passed Tuesday, in fact, spells out that any broadly defined “cybersecurity threat” information gathered can be shared “notwithstanding any other provision of law.” Privacy advocates consider that a vague and potentially reckless exemption in the protections of Americans’ personal information. “Every law is struck down for the purposes of this information sharing: financial privacy, electronic communications privacy, health privacy, none of it would matter,” says Robyn Greene, policy counsel for the Open Technology Institute. “That’s a dangerous road to go down.”[/quote]
I urge everyone to get education on this situation, and understand that this is an obstruction of privacy, a government working towards the destruction of individual privacy and prosperity. The greatest threat to national security is not the political swamp in the middle east, it is right here in the U.S. and in the form of inalienable rights being stripped from us and masqueraded as security measures.
More info:[spoiler]
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/a-quick-guide-to-the-senate-s-newly-passed-cybersecurity-bill/
http://www.wired.com/2015/10/cisa-cybersecurity-information-sharing-act-passes-senate-vote-with-privacy-flaws/?mbid=social_twitter
http://www.decidethefuture.org
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/27/cisa-cybersecurity-bill-senate-vote[/spoiler]
Discuss.
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Edited by Psyntifik: 11/2/2015 4:38:23 PMThe thing I've always concerned myself the most about all of this is that I can't help but believe this is just the government trying to cover up all the mess they get into. If you found out Obama was actually a pedophile, they could take you put before you had the chance to tell anyone. [spoiler]A little on the extreme, but not impossible[/spoiler]
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Edited by Ewan McNeckbeard: 10/29/2015 1:01:07 PMIf you aren't participating in questionable activities online, you have nothing to worry about in the first place. It's that simple.
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[quote]>The year is 2048 >Trump's Empire has taken Europe and is now invading North Korea >Trump the Ever-Living is working on plans for his Mars base >One of Trump's advisers entered the war room >"My Lord, we just received news that your strike team has failed. Kim Jong Un is still alive." >Trump stood up from his solid gold throne >"Looks like I have to do this myself." >"Sir?" >The Trumptator adjusted his tie >"I need a weapon." >Trump's holocopter (a helicopter with a cloaking device) positions itself above Kim Jong Un's palace >"This shouldn't be long." >He jumps from the holocopter without a parachute >Trump lands standing up, his solid gold armor preventing any bodily harm >The palace's doors open on their own upon Trump's arrival >Lord Trump moves quickly through the palace >The guards put up little resistance, the Trumptator taking them out with headshots >Trump the Immortal enters the throne room and is quickly surrounded by palace guards >They encircle him and take his gold plated assault rifle >"Rooks rike you're stumped!" said the Korean Dictator with a smile >Trump smirks "I don't think so." >Our lord unleashes his dual omni-blades and cuts down the guards in a matter of seconds >Kim Jong Un takes out a handgun from his inside his jacket >"FRUK YOU!" he screams as he empties the magazine >Trump raises his hand and stops all of the bullets Darth Vader style >Lord Trump aims his trademark gold plated revolver at the Korean dictator >"Kim.." >A bead of sweat ran down the side of Kim Jong Un's face >Trump the Undying pulled back the hammer and smirked >and said _____[/quote]
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It's alright guys. Nothing to hide, nothing to fear right?
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Does this affect Canadians?
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Why don't we just take our data [i]and push it[/i] somewhere else
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Unfortunately most people don't see this as big of a problem as it really is so in a decade or two down the line maybe less wel be a total surveillance state. if you really think this is about security I refer you to a Ben Franklin quote. "those who sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither."
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Apparently, a certain "Senator Feinstein" is one of the main people pushing for this Bill. The bitch has been pushing for this thing for a looong time. She even said that there was a right balance between "privacy and security" in regards of the Bill. Why she's still in office is beyond me, but she - and 73 of her fellow traitors - need to be impeached, and prohibited from ever holding office again.
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Edited by RGC Chedderbob: 10/29/2015 4:51:17 PMThis is why we still have guns in the U.S. This is why we refuse to give them up. For these reasons right here. Edit: Good job to all the people that replied to this post and didn't understand what I meant. Eventually these bills that invade our privacy will bring the government to our front doors. That's when our guns will come in handy. The whole reason we have guns. The reason the second amendment was put in place. To help protect us from the government.
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Oh no they get to see all my porn!
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Pretty sure this doesn't affect CA due to some stuff Mr Brown pulled
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Thanks Obama. At least you oppose the Patriot Act. Wait....
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Some bullshit right here. Seems like people are more concerned with the latest celebrity gossip or some other exaggerated thing the news broadcasts.
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inb4 britton and noiseless act like retarded liberals and XDC goes on a rant about god and large government
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-blam!-in' politicians
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Well it's what you liberals want
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I expected this sooner or later so I'm not upset about it at all. If you are not doing anything wrong then you really don't got shit to worry about. Only people who do is people who is committing crimes that is worthy of their time.
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This -blam!-ing country can go to -blam!-ing hell, no privacy, and nothing we can do bout it, sadly the publics to blame, cuz either way we are the ones who supposiduly vote these money hungry cocksucks into office #-blam!- you obama O-One B_Big A-Ass M-Mistake A-America
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Whats next womens rights?
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I'm just here laughing at the Americans that think they live in the "land of freedom"
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Where's Jared gonna hide his kiddy "stuff"???
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Siiigh Next is the loss of net neutrality. This plus that. Equal even worse day
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God the amount of illegal porn they must see
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Use tor u idiot
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Hi NSA! *waves*
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Governments rarely give up powers they're given. Meh, the world's -blam!-ed either way so who really cares