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Edited by BingoBangoBungo:
11/4/2015 1:38:07 PM
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Do me a quick stat check:
Find the aim assist numbers (via planet destiny) of the following:
Y-09 longbow synthesis - (53 AA)
http://db.planetdestiny.com/items/view/935317314
1000 yard stare - (56 AA)
http://db.planetdestiny.com/items/view/170377716
Shadow of veils - (69!! AA)
http://db.planetdestiny.com/items/view/190731588
Defiance of Yasmin - (69 AA)
http://db.planetdestiny.com/items/view/3919765141
Hereafter - ([b]75 AA[/b])
http://db.planetdestiny.com/items/view/3227022823
After doing so, find a basis for your claim that 1000 yard stare has a high aim assist. I've heard everything from hidden hand is too good (it isn't) to it can shoot off revive (nothing to do with AA in the first place). If it beats you so bad you think it's op, then learn to counter snipe. Not hard.
[spoiler]p.s. 11000 shotgun kills and 1000 sniper kills doesn't help your case at all[/spoiler]
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Your not looking at max aim assist scroll down
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[quote]And? https://m.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/3mygq3/this_weeks_eirene_rr4_armsday_sniper_package_is/ Longbow maxed out at 83, her benevolence maxed out at 70. That's still pretty equal to the BASE AA of other guns. And most people aren't going to have a max aim assist[/quote]
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Edited by boff: 11/4/2015 1:58:26 PMYard stare can get 71 with the right scope. Info is on the same site, planet destiny...click on weapon and it gives you the highest possible AA...56 is just base stat. Yasmin is maxed at 69. Hereafter is maxed at 75 Longbow can get to 74 I think shadow veil is maxed at 69 I think the op's overall message that aim assist may be a tad high on snipers is valid and its pretty much confirmed that sniping if easy compared to other games. But seeing as destiny is so shotgun friendly maybe they needed to balance that out by making snipers easier to use
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Veils is 84
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I thought max was 69, but yeah 84, wow
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Shortgaze scope adds an absurd amount...
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Bullshit i say its easier to snipe in halo cod even godamn csgo and they dont even have aim assist
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You say, majority may disagree
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Edited by BingoBangoBungo: 11/4/2015 1:58:58 PMAnd? https://m.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/3mygq3/this_weeks_eirene_rr4_armsday_sniper_package_is/ Longbow maxed out at 83, her benevolence maxed out at 70. That's still pretty equal to the BASE AA of other guns. And most people aren't going to have a max aim assist
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Most people will be aiming to, his point about aim assist being to high is valid imo...but to single out 1000 yard may not be. But it's the highest aim assist on a high Impact sniper from year 2 so maybe that's why it's noticed a bit more.
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Thank you for acknowledging. I just wanted the discussion started so aim assist would be looked at. If no one had complained about Thorn it would still be in your side now sir.
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Edited by boff: 11/4/2015 2:16:34 PMIt's pretty much the same, just like last year if you had complained about the blantantly op thorn you would get down voted and be told to get good....calling for balance in PvP is a struggle....people will always defend their set up no mater what
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[quote]Most people will be aiming to, his point about aim assist being to high is valid imo...but to single out 1000 yard may not be. But it's the highest aim assist on a high Impact sniper from year 2 so maybe that's why it's noticed a bit more.[/quote] It's the highest of the like 3(?) high impact sniper, if the other options are eirene rr4, black spindle,1000 yard stare and... I can't think of anything else. Singling that out doesn't do much good when the options are so limited. If we want to discuss snipers in general, plenty of snipers have more aim assist compared to it. Aim assist as a mechanic in this game is another topic, but in terms of 1000 yard stare it hardly has too much compared to other guns.
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Yeah it funny how the eirene isn't so popular with aim assist of 21....strange that. Forget what gun we are talking about, it more about is aim assist to high on snipers
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Eirene isn't used as much because it's been sold once by the gunsmith in a foundry package (which most people neglect), but it's limited use is not an implication that 1000 yard stare (which drops from vanguard packages / can be bought any time / is a reward from a quest) is overpowered. Now that I have an eirene in a week I'll probably use both depending on the rolls that come out
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Disagree...but let's just say it is popular and it is a good sniper and its only 21 aim assist, why the need to make yard stare 71 if a sniper can work perfectly well at 21?
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[quote]Disagree...[/quote] Any reason why? [quote]but let's just say it is popular and it is a good sniper and its only 21 aim assist, why the need to make yard stare 56*-71 if a sniper can work perfectly well at 21?[/quote] Same could be said for efrideets spear compared to y-09 longbow. One had a higher AA and efrideets had like 18? Omolon having a lower aim assist is more uncommon than 1000 yard stare having a fairly average aim assist. Each gun has independent stats, one guns stats are not dependent on another even if they're in the same archetype
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Edited by boff: 11/4/2015 3:06:44 PMI disagree in that I think eirene is not popular because it has low aim assist. If word spread that eirene had super aim assist people would work towards getting it, it's not hard to obtain...the only draw to that gun is that it has litc. I not saying there are no people on here that can not snipe, so low aim assist snipers may suit them like spear, but for the average sniper aim assist may be working to well for them. Spear also had final round...and that what i mainly saw in pvp
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[quote]If word spread that eirene had super aim assist people would work towards getting it, it's not hard to obtain...the only draw to that gun is that it has litc.[/quote] How is it not hard to obtain? It's been available one time from a vendor for a 5 day period? Nobody even knew the perks till the gun wasn't available to buy anymore. The other way is one of 3 gunsmith packages you have a chance of earning once a week that drop foundry guns from all 3 foundries. Come back in a week and there will be plenty of eirenes out and about. And I agree, aim assist does help people. But it alone doesn't make a gun overpowered. Final round / litc do but critical shots are critical shots and require at least a little bit more thumb dexterity
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as you say if eirene becomes popular it proves there's no point to putting high aim assist on snippers as they work fine without high aim assist. So surely high aim assist would be overkill. The only reasoning I see for making snipers a bit easier to use with high aim assist is to give them a fighting chance against shotgunners and to make the game as user friendly as possible for those who are not great at sniping.
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This is a user friendly game for sure, something anyone can pick up and play. Maybe it'll change if they try and get competitive (which couldn't happen till destiny 2)
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Agree with that, it needs a total rework that only a new game could probably deliever. But I think user friendly works well for sales so doubt it will change
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Oi you forgot new Iron Banner sniper Has 79 AA!!!
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I think it's actually like 89, I'd have to check.. But either way it's stupid high
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Edited by Kilerdrake: 11/4/2015 2:01:08 PMWith scopes it is. I meant the Base AA is 79. With longview it would be crazy...
