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Edited by BIT5 AND PIECE5:
11/4/2015 3:40:56 PM
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Just found this is in #feedback. It needs a read.
[quote]You are crack on. The individual gun nerfs were PvP related, but the wholesale rendering of all year one weapons and gear to worthless? No one wanted that, there was no hew and cry. That was Bungie course correcting and a complete reversal of DeeJ's own words. Not that we are not used to that...
Seriously, point to any post that complained about field scout, firefly, or the variety of gun perks we had. Final round? Sure. Shot package and range finder? Sure.
Where did anyone post, "I sure wish Nightfall rewards would be removed, the XP bonus and great weapon drops!"?
Where did anyone post, "You know, people do these old raids too much. If only there was some way to make the year one content completely irrelevant..."?
Where did anyone post, "I'm tired of playing the old stuff. I wish they would paywall or close off entirely large pieces of the game..."?
Place the blame where it belongs - squarely in the lap of a group of "developers" who are quickly gaining a reputation for unerringly making decisions which make their "MMO" more confined, restricted, and less fun with each "addition".[/quote]
I agree- this man has literally summed up the devs and this game as a whole.
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To all those saying "why would I want to use the same guns for 10 years. " Answer me this, is there any reason we couldn't have a gun that could match the strength of our favorite year 1 weapons? Does bungie lack the capability to give us more actual additions to our game? Why does each" expansion" reduce our available arsenal?
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They did seem to make some harsh decisions transistioning into year 2, and some that made absolutely no sense... I was upset/confused about what they did to the Frontier ghost shell, part of me wants to think they had their reasons... But the other part makes me want buy a flight out to wasington and put a brick through Bungies window...
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1 ReplyIMPORTANT FACT: Fallout 4 comes out next week. The Great Journey out of Destiny is nigh.
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1 Reply[b]IMPORTANT FACT TO MAKE YOU THINK, READ PLEASE:[/b] There are two options. Make Year One gear irrelevant because of elemental primaries, Fatebringer, and Vision of Confluence. OR Nerf Fatebringer (they nerfed firefly, people just for some damn reason don't even realize it (firefly does half the damage it did before with handcannons) and Nerf the stability on Vision of Confluence and remove elemental primaries. Why shouldn't I be able to use my favorite Year One guns like Praedyth's Timepiece, Atheon's Epilogue, Super Pox VLO, or other things not OP just because two weapons and the other elemental primaries are "ruining the game" in their eyes?
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1 ReplyEvery mmo does this stuff. Literally thought you were going to bag on this retard
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2 Replieslol. stop playing for loot. put your VoG armor on & run the old raid with old weapons. it's still fun. use the gear you used in HoW and take on Skolas. see where I'm going?
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That's nice.
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8 Repliesam i the only one who thinks leaving year one gear behind was a good idea but thinks the raids should drop new unique year 2 gear
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All fair points. All the changes have removed most of the "fun" factor. Sigh...
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I am ashamed of your actions
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I am ashamed of your actions
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I'd say the biggest mistake is that yes y1 stuff shouldn't be as good as Y2 specifically the raid but, to make everything y1 worthless only makes their world smaller with each addition and no incentive to play any of it when they could make at least an item or two worthwhile getting from each raid for some reason. No they shouldn't be better but, that doesn't mean nothing should be relevant anymore which is what they did. Then players only have a small amount of content worth replaying which always leads to everyone getting bored, pissed, or quit with the exception of some. Great MMO'S keep everything worth doing whether it's for new players or putting exotic equivalent items in older raids so there's a reason to do it. In the perspective of people that got done around TDB or How you now run the quests to complete those expansions while at the same time having TTK quests available which gives far far better rewards and starting light on them being in most cases 60 points higher than the older expansions. So the expansion quests you run but, they're not fun, worthwhile, or exciting because, you just junk everything you get from them. It gets boring and in cases like mine, I haven't even completed most of TTK exotic bounties or new quests because, everything just got boring from the enormous grind you do mostly for nothing at all other than to complete the quests and get thrm off your quest list. Doesn't make sense, they just made it more boring somehow.
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I agree. I'm on the fence about getting the next expansion whatever it may be. The Mida is the epitome of this argument. This weapon finally has its chance to have its time of day but is entirely useless in end game content. What I don't understand is why they sold us the light level argument yet a year one weapon shoots like a pea shooter even when you raise your light to 290+.
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THIS. THIS... THIS!!!!!!!!!
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I would care less if the new raid weapons even came close to what the old weapons did. I cannot think of a single gun from the raid that makes me think damn I really want that. However I can still recall most of the old raid weapons by name because they had a good reason to be sought after. Right now any current raid weapons I get are simply infused into the few great guns out there such as Hung jury.
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2 RepliesIt's. Just. A. Game. Do we really need another salty thread by someone who Xurned their Gjallarhorn right before year two and now they're crying? No. We could do without another one of those threads.
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Nobody asked for the old guns to be left behind but not everyone is complaining either. I worked hard for my year one guns but I'm not stuck to them like that glue stain on my carpet.... You guys need to let go.
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3 RepliesThis needs to be seen by the whole Bungie staff. This needs to be seen by as many people as possible. Not only that, but here are a few more points: Where did anyone say, "Oh, gee-wiz, I wish bounties gave LESS experience!" Did anyone write, "Dangit, I am getting TOO many weapon parts and armor parts! This needs to be nerfed." What about "Danigt, Petra is giving too many bounties per week. I wish she had less..." They have completely destroyed loot drops and such. I hate playing Nightfall now. I cannot find anyone who wants to play VoG and CE because they have become irrelevant. The grind to upgrade your subclass is an absolute joke. I strongly believe that they made the ability to do everything that is talked about in the OP and what I talked about so difficult is because they didn't want players to (almost) instantaneously level up when TTK dropped. ...sigh... They did so many good things with TTK, but they also implemented so many terrible things... Bungie literally takes one step forward and then two steps backward... I'll still play, I'll still enjoy "becoming legend", but at what cost?
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5 RepliesDestiny TTK has no dlc's for it yet and should be compared to destiny before Crota and Skolas. So in my opinion we shouldn't rush to any conclusions until both destiny and TTK have their respective dlc's out so they can defend themselves
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Also all the ninja nerfs. I have a problem with weapon parts, I know some of you dont. 1972 hours into this game. I do strikes, patrol, dailys, every 10 engrams I get 2 are weapon parts, for every 10 weapon engrams I get maybe 4, usually 3 weapon parts. The rest turn into motes, coin, or artifacts it seems. Bungie does things like weapon parts to level up, then realize they made a mistake. People are leveling factions too fast. So they nerf them. Some of this is my fault, I rolled weapons non stop trying for that perfect roll. All in all it seems like bungie jumps before they look, and spend the rest of the time correcting what they just did, instead of correcting the issues in all the raids ect. Sorry rant over.
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Weapon parts are too OP. Please nerf the amount of weapon parts I receive when dismantling weapons and field scout gives me too much ammo and I dont like it said no one ever.
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7 RepliesEdited by Johnny D FISHER: 11/4/2015 8:07:42 PMHey guys, wouldn't it be great if [b]Bungie[/b] released a DLC that removed everything you like and rendered all of the [i]Year 2[/i] weapons and armor useless?! :) We could just melee each other until they remove melee abilities and replace them with hugs ^_^
