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Edited by Auver: 11/5/2015 6:52:26 PM
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What I don't understand about christianity

This will probably be a long post. 1.) [b][u]Predestination[/u][/b] "Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,…” ‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭1:5‬ ‭(KJV‬‬). So is this verse saying that you don't have a choice about becoming a christian? God just decides for you just because he thinks it's good? There are also verses that state that God predestinates people to hell (I can't find them now), so what is the purpose of trying to be a Christian if you are predestined to hell? I just don't understand how a God that loves everyone could predestine people to hell, not to mention, “And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God..." ‭‭Romans‬ ‭8:28‬ ‭(KJV‬‬) 2.) [b][u]God's Wrath[/u][/b] “And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God. And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs.” Revelation‬ ‭14:19-20‬ ‭(KJV‬‬) Six hundred furlongs = roughly 800 miles. Yep sounds like a merciful and loving God to me! I'm sorry if I sound like I'm cherry picking verses, I'm not trying to. These are the two main things I don't understand about christianity.

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  • Edited by Ogma: Destroyer of Worlds: 11/5/2015 8:05:46 PM
    You're asking the right questions. Keep at it. It is not possible for god to be both omnipotent/omniscient and for him to be solely a good and loving god at the same time. Is god willing to prevent evil bit not able? - Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able but not willing? - Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? - Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? - Then why call him god? Epicurus

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