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Edited by AmBiiTioN-: 11/6/2015 4:20:12 PM
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Passive aggressive inappropriate tone from Deej and other Bungie employees

Ive been noticing an increase in the amount of disrespect from bungie employees on community forums. Just look at todays weekly update and the extremely snarky and sarcastic comments from Deej such as "omg he only has 1600 weapon parts left we need to do something" and "we hold the right to do anything with the game economy we want." Does anyone else think snarky comments like this are very unprofessional? Like Bungie you act like your some sort of hero for fixing a problem that YOU created. Here is a comment from another post that explains my thoughts perfectly, all credit goes to user Wahrnye "Just another joke of a weekly update that makes it easier to not look back on this game going forward. Announcing the weapon parts change - Fine, but that's a fix to a problem THEY created. And when addressing the fact that THEY created this problem, DeeJ wraps it up in unnecessary snark about being curators of THEIR living world. Hubris to the highest degree; it's almost as if they're saying how dare we question their choices? Let me say this next part slowly so the apologists can understand: [i][u]Etheric Light and Wormspore uses should have been in the game since September's launch, not something coming soon by December.[/u][/i] They knew Etheric Light was a thing that many people had plenty of and they also introduced Wormspore (apparently) without any regard for what to do with it outside a few weapon upgrades. IIt's going to take them almost 3 months to finally make these things meaningful? These are all issues they created by poor planning or bad oversight, not something they should be praised for fixing AFTER the fact. The rest of the entire update was about the same tired PVP bullshit as almost every other weekly update. No news on new content, no commenting on the terrible loot system - especially in regards to raid drops (I love doing the raid and getting a fourth duplicate item at 302 light... ) - or the fact that Nightfalls, Strikes, and Court of Oryx ceases being rewarding once you reach 300 light or more. I've seen this playbook before. Between this and Activision spouting off their easily manipulated "registered user" numbers (aka 'investor math'), they've pretty much already decided they're going to pander to the base players who believe Bungie can never, ever, do any wrong. Nothing will change going forward. Bungie and Activision are living in their own echo chamber - as evidenced by the fact that they spend more time conversing with the "community" on Bungie-friendly outlets like Reddit and Twitter..." EDIT: A lot of you seem to think im just looking for something to be offended by cuz im a "no balls toxic loser" Its more im just fed up with the bullshit direction this game is taking like timegating exotics that i already payed for to extend gameplay time and patching things like weapon parts for no -blam!-ing reason Perhaps the most irritating thing is the bungie fanboys and dickriders who will stop at nothing to defend everything the devs do to this game and every word that comes out of that douchebag known as Deej's mouth. Go ahead meet me with ninja justice for stating the obvious about your shit company and bottomfeeder fanboys EDIT2 It seems the common defense for Deejs tone is "oh bungie has to go through so much shit and complaining on the forums, people are meanies" You people cant seriously believe its ok for a company to retaliate in this fashion. Oh no a game developer has to see negative feedback about the game they made wahh wahh prayers for bungie" All of you are saying "can the entitled/offended generation go away", if you ask me the people defending bungie with this mindset are the "offended generation." Some of you say, "The customer is always right bullshit has to stop." Anyone who utters this is a complete moron and has either no concept of business ethics or is 15 years old and thinks they are being righteous and hip. Go ahead, start a business and whenever a customer has a problem with you or the product, tell them to -blam!- OFF. Yea thats a good business model, you will surely succeed.

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  • Are you entitled?

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  • He was being kind of a smart ass.

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    • All they did was make fun of their boss. [quote]living social world[/quote] That means that destiny is living and constantly in motion; not that it's our only form of interaction with others.

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      I don't know about the rest of your post but we can all agree with paragraph 7 and 8.

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    • this generation is a bunch of sensitive little bitches. sack up

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      • [url=http://i.word.com/idictionary/disrespect]Webster's definition of disrespect [/url] Sarcasm isn't the same thing as disrespect.

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      • mate i agree with none of this, but im quitting destiny anyway, but dont agree with the comments about the staff. althou they can do alot more to make it better. but meh who gives a -blam!- now

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      • I see your point, and I'm getting near my wits end with the grind in this game at the moment, but I can't help but think that I would be a little bit sarcastic at this point too. This is one of the most toxic game communities I've ever seen, and literally nothing seems to generally appease the masses. People on these forums bitch about literally everything and personally attack the community reps for perceived indiscretions as if they are the root cause of anything wrong with the game and can wave some magic wand and fix all the things that people don't like. If I was in deej or cosmo's shoes I'd get a little bit sick of being called a "fgt" all day and read about all the things that [b][i]I[/i][/b] have to do to fix the game or how things didn't live up to expectations. Yeah I'd probably be a little more than sarcastic. I'm slowly pulling out of this game, but I don't blame my lack of interest on the community managers, and I wouldn't want to trade places with them and put up with all the mud slinging and bitching all day.

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      • Edited by ncb17a: 11/6/2015 10:37:40 AM
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        I couldn't get thu all that mess you posted, but I did get some key points of your rant. Have you seen the way kids talk about Deej and other employees in these forums? The language alone would be grounds for bans from posting. So I see no problem with anything in the post. Weapon parts yes that was their mistake no doubt. Wormspore its a material just like spinmetal. Just don't pick it up. If you end up with more than you want to carry just delete some. Ethernet light is a yr one item. Its a bonus that there will be anything to do with it beyond its original purpose. Some of the "problems" you kids cry and moan about are self induced because you play Destiny way too much. Thus you have too much of this and that.

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      • I don't blame them for acting that way one bit. All I see on the forums are quitters and whiners. The forums are toxic and generally aren't providing any constructive criticism. Bungie does listen and that's evident in their updates. Sure they have a lot to work on and things to fix but it will get there. I have faith that this game will continually become better. However, when the community shows disrespect why be surprised when the devs stand up for themselves. The game can't and won't give you things on a silver platter at a moments notice. Thats not how it works so deal.

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      • How about all the horrible vile things that get said about DeeJ, Bungie, Activision on these forums since pretty much day one? Just think it's a gross double standard that we expect them to be all nice and professional week in and week out while the community can't be critical and offer solutions in a professional way ourselves. Sure, maybe they came off a little snarky. It's not the worst thing in the world and didn't personally bother me much. I just hate double standards in life.

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      • I agree. Don't bite the hand that feeds you.

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      • Idk, while I definitely don't think bungie is perfect and they can do no wrong (the past is evidence of their ability) I'm not sure it wasn't just deej personality coming across poorly in text format. I am sure that if you had heard him say it with his tone and cadence then it wouldn't have been insulting. I would how ever like to see bungie be more open and transparent to their player base. For instance their banning process is a bunch of hand waving magic with them saying "trust us". I'm no fan of this because I would hate to see people wrongly banned. They also don't appear to have any appeals process on the bans. The lack of beta testing new builds is also frustrating, they should have a separate server which they turn on when getting ready to release a new patch. Any willing players can choose to launch up the game to that server and test the new features as well as report any bugs they find. Maybe reward those who find a bug with a special item or gun. This will help them reduce the amount of -blam!- ups and make game launches less bugy for us all. Tl;Dr I ranted for a bit, handwaving banning procces is bad, and have beta test of new patches

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        • The problem with bubble development is you assume everyone plays the game the same way you do. Bungie as always are awful for falling into this trap. But their distane towords the communty simply comes from "You not playing the game correctly" It's very easy trap for Devs to fall into and one iv seen many times in other games. Hell anyone who played dust514 remembers the tweet where a dev pretty much said that. Bungie play their game the way they think it should it be played and design it around that. The rest of us are all doing it wrong...

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        • Edited by Andy: 11/6/2015 10:25:35 AM
          lol and you think it's okay for every other topic to be about how bungie failed or you hate Destiny? they just showed you that you don't run S H I T. they run the show

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          • *I've seen this playbook before. Between this and Activision spouting off their easily manipulated "registered user" numbers (aka 'investor math'), they've pretty much already decided they're going to pander to the base players who believe Bungie can never, ever, do any wrong. Nothing will change going forward. Bungie and Activision are living in their own echo chamber - as evidenced by the fact that they spend more time conversing with the "community" on Bungie-friendly outlets like Reddit and Twitter...* I havent seen this playbook before . Why dont you try contacting EA and tell them they are money hungry douchebags and tell them to f**** fix a car in Need for Speed that your not happy with . Tell them how stupid and low life they are and then see what happens. I doubt they will respond and if they do it will be a dry standard acknowledgement of your concern with zero comittment to actually change the game for you. You are spoiled and feel entitled. Also the salt in you is real , probably due to frustrations. Just enjoy the game and if you are missing something try to articulate that concern in a polite manner. Maybe someone will answer. get it trending and it will certainly get their attention.

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            • It's called comedic relief, assface.

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            • Edited by A high-value target: 11/6/2015 10:23:48 AM
              Ooh you're a sensitive little flower, ain't ya? Go tell your mum about it.

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            • I hope this is a joke, I find there to be nothing wrong with the way they speak.

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            • You could possibly get off your high horse! No one owes you anything. Your are a consumer of their product. Their product is NOT faulty. You switch on your console and the game works which is reflected in the countless hours you have pumped into it!! If you don't like the product……don't buy their next product. Bungie are however, working with you to improve their product. Just have patience young Padawan!! Bottom line…….Bungie doesn't owe you shite and they are well within their right to give you a big FCK YOU if they so desire. You need to get over your sensitive little self!!…... ……...Thinking about it and taking into account how things make you feel………I should probably say sorry for my extremely snarky and sarcastic reply?!

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              • I didn't think anything was inappropriate I took it to mean someone was DOWN to only 1600 weapon parts and they agreed something had to be done about it. They probably had a crazy amount when TTK dropped.

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              • destiny is the only game i know with such horrible inconvenience of not having matchmaking , yet the dev dare to say "we will find you enemies , but no fireteam" , this is plain disrespectful , bungie wont see any of my money in future

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                • their update was a form of apology or acknowledgement that they did something wrong and they plan to fix it without loosing credibility. maybe it will be a good fix or a bad fix. One think is certain at this point . They are making changes for the game constantly and any change is good. how else the game can evolve if changes are not made? There are other issues that bungie should address on which affect OUR gameplay experience.

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                  • No balls toxic loser.

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                  • Bad joke - deal with it

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                  • Well said, totally agree. I'm on the verge of giving up on the game totally.

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