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Edited by AmBiiTioN-: 11/6/2015 4:20:12 PM
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Passive aggressive inappropriate tone from Deej and other Bungie employees

Ive been noticing an increase in the amount of disrespect from bungie employees on community forums. Just look at todays weekly update and the extremely snarky and sarcastic comments from Deej such as "omg he only has 1600 weapon parts left we need to do something" and "we hold the right to do anything with the game economy we want." Does anyone else think snarky comments like this are very unprofessional? Like Bungie you act like your some sort of hero for fixing a problem that YOU created. Here is a comment from another post that explains my thoughts perfectly, all credit goes to user Wahrnye "Just another joke of a weekly update that makes it easier to not look back on this game going forward. Announcing the weapon parts change - Fine, but that's a fix to a problem THEY created. And when addressing the fact that THEY created this problem, DeeJ wraps it up in unnecessary snark about being curators of THEIR living world. Hubris to the highest degree; it's almost as if they're saying how dare we question their choices? Let me say this next part slowly so the apologists can understand: [i][u]Etheric Light and Wormspore uses should have been in the game since September's launch, not something coming soon by December.[/u][/i] They knew Etheric Light was a thing that many people had plenty of and they also introduced Wormspore (apparently) without any regard for what to do with it outside a few weapon upgrades. IIt's going to take them almost 3 months to finally make these things meaningful? These are all issues they created by poor planning or bad oversight, not something they should be praised for fixing AFTER the fact. The rest of the entire update was about the same tired PVP bullshit as almost every other weekly update. No news on new content, no commenting on the terrible loot system - especially in regards to raid drops (I love doing the raid and getting a fourth duplicate item at 302 light... ) - or the fact that Nightfalls, Strikes, and Court of Oryx ceases being rewarding once you reach 300 light or more. I've seen this playbook before. Between this and Activision spouting off their easily manipulated "registered user" numbers (aka 'investor math'), they've pretty much already decided they're going to pander to the base players who believe Bungie can never, ever, do any wrong. Nothing will change going forward. Bungie and Activision are living in their own echo chamber - as evidenced by the fact that they spend more time conversing with the "community" on Bungie-friendly outlets like Reddit and Twitter..." EDIT: A lot of you seem to think im just looking for something to be offended by cuz im a "no balls toxic loser" Its more im just fed up with the bullshit direction this game is taking like timegating exotics that i already payed for to extend gameplay time and patching things like weapon parts for no -blam!-ing reason Perhaps the most irritating thing is the bungie fanboys and dickriders who will stop at nothing to defend everything the devs do to this game and every word that comes out of that douchebag known as Deej's mouth. Go ahead meet me with ninja justice for stating the obvious about your shit company and bottomfeeder fanboys EDIT2 It seems the common defense for Deejs tone is "oh bungie has to go through so much shit and complaining on the forums, people are meanies" You people cant seriously believe its ok for a company to retaliate in this fashion. Oh no a game developer has to see negative feedback about the game they made wahh wahh prayers for bungie" All of you are saying "can the entitled/offended generation go away", if you ask me the people defending bungie with this mindset are the "offended generation." Some of you say, "The customer is always right bullshit has to stop." Anyone who utters this is a complete moron and has either no concept of business ethics or is 15 years old and thinks they are being righteous and hip. Go ahead, start a business and whenever a customer has a problem with you or the product, tell them to -blam!- OFF. Yea thats a good business model, you will surely succeed.

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  • Well it is their game they do decide what is fair or not and not the players ever no matter how much you want to say or claim or think otherwise ever. You did not ever pay for access to specific content ever silly git. You paid for access to content period. not when or how or why. You did not buy rights to have it when YOU wanted it...

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  • Judging from the way moat destiny players seem to be on the forums i dont blame them.... Whinging about everything remotely possible (see op for more details)

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  • For the love of all things holy.... If you are going to try and read between the lines of every written word you're going to have some real problems in life. Stuff that has no real impact on you ( and this crap is a perfect example ) is just people tying to find something to complain about.

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    • When you look at some of the vile, horrible shit that people say on these forum towards Bungie, regardless of merit, I wouldn't blame them for responding with a bit of snark.

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      • So if the people who defend the game & company are dïck riders & fanboys, what do you call the people that whine at & attack bungie every time they do or say anything?

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        • Edited by Zurikon: 11/6/2015 9:06:02 AM
          Seriously, when is it time to move on? If this game does nothing but garner hate and animosity from you than why stay with it? Ive had games in the past I didn't like or agree with desicions made to gameplay or whatnot. You know what I did? I stopped playing them. I moved on to something else that did what a video game is supposed to do. Make me happy and entertain me. This game is going in an obvious direction that for the moment isnt going to change. Rising up and demanding and belittle things isn't going to do more than maybe get an apology and a minor tweak that ultimately will do nothing. It's not like you all want the very best for this game and for it too improve. You want it to be something that it more than likely won't be. Yeah it sucks when something you have investment of money and time not turn out the way you want but when do you cut your loses? This didn't offend me in the least and it made me chuckle a bit because even though ive been scrapping the bottom of the weapons part barrel for awhile now I still get by. Also don't pull that customer rights or customer is always right crap. All retial and sales smile through their teeth while screwing you. Are you really that mad they weren't giving you a reach around while going for your wallet? It's business. End of the day all of you could leave and destiny will still be here and it will follow through with what it wants because through it's desicions it's still doing fine. Game populations will fluxuate and game design and desicions will not always be on the same level as the expectations of the customer. Just know that it won't change no matter how much you Bitch because you guys are a vocal minority that will be pleased only to shut you up for a moment so they can get to the feedback they care about. Call me a dick or a fanboy, I don't care. You're the ones with weird attachment issues that cant seem to let go.

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        • I've been around for a while. I've read many a BWU. Bungie has always had this tone. It's certainly not serious. Just be glad they've refrained from attacking your mother.

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        • Maybe, just maybe they're tired of all your bitching....

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          • You sound like a child demanding his Christmas presents before thanksgiving

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          • disrespect? are you serious? look at ANY post by Deej and Cozmo and you'll find plenty of fudge you!s and you should be fired! posts by the countless "community". whenever they make any changes they try their best to brace the "community" with some heads up, and even a justification here and there. any tweaking they make to their game is met by Bungie you fudged up im quitting gun go play game X nao! they get berated relentlessly with absolute pure malice with so little true criticism from the "community". but they make a small (and quite honestly clever) quip and suddenly THEY are being completely disrespectful! your probably one of those idiots that thinks others need to respect you first, and that they need to "earn" respect. this is'nt a Deej or Bungie issue, this is a YOU issue.

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            • Read first paragraph and muted you.

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            • So you got upset because they made a joke and are trying to solve current problems? Just grow up.

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            • Bungie's PR department is one of the least skilled I've ever come across in a larger corporation. And that's my professional view.

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              • what do you expect when this community bitches about every single thing they do.

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              • Edited by Dialon: 11/6/2015 8:56:32 AM
                They're turning it into a game they want. I guess as a game creator that's fine since you'd want to create what you and your team envisioned. But they post these weekly updates saying how they're always listening to the community for ways to improve the game. I've read so many great suggestions on these forums that go either unheard or they just don't care. The "issues" I see them tending to the most is nerfing xyz. Yes there's a lot of complaining, but why should that be their main concern? There's all these new games coming out and they're doing nothing relevant to compete. The real issues I've seen players come across are: Lack of content - we do the same thing over and over again. That's fine if it didn't lead to the next issue. RNG - not rng in it's entirety. But an example is the raid drops. If you're going to implement such a large amount of farming for gear then make it worth while. I've said it on other posts, but raid gear should only drop at the same light or higher light than whatever piece of gear you have in that slot. Dedicated servers - these new games are emphasizing on the fact that they are using dedicated servers. (At least halo 5 is, idk if CoD does). Having to play with people with terrible connections or lag switchers in events like Trials. These are a few of the bigger issues not being addressed in my opinion. Nerfing everything to the ground isn't going to make everyone happy. Everyone has the same access to get every gun, skill and time may be the only real factor holding them back. Tl;dr - Bungie isn't as concerned with the ideas of the community as they try to make it seem. From what I understand from deej's post is that they'll make the game the way they like to play it. If they do care, fix the bigger issues before you lose too many players to these new games. *destiny is still my favorite game. I hope it keeps on getting better. Sorry op for my rant

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              • Edited by SidDaSquid85: 11/6/2015 8:49:15 AM
                Drop the game and don't play, don't give in to temptation. Just boycott it. That's the only thing that will lead to change. Until then stop bitching until you actually do something about it. Leave them with empty servers! Make there investment useless.

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              • Blah blah blah, somany blahs

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              • Edited by TimboLextown: 11/6/2015 7:38:07 AM
                Destiny's economy is an ever-evolving pile of horse shit. And I'm firmly convinced that most of the people who work for Bungie are nothing but douchebags who care about nothing other than money. And they prove it every time they open their mouths. And douchebaggery breeds douchebaggery. Just look at the fanboy Desticles. I honestly don't know why I even read the weekly update. There's rarely anything of substance in it. They do not care that they've broken nightfalls yet again. They do not care that pretty much everyone hates King's Fall's ridiculous RNG that rewards nothing but duplicate after duplicate with lower light. Oh and moldering shards. And they think it's OK to give you 2 moldering shards in exchange for your 20. They do not care about the time you've invested. Just throw your money at the screen and get lost, folks! Fallout 4 cannot get here soon enough.

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              • Most updates are an exercise in pointlessness. They usually refer to a future event within a vague time frame, the words "we are listening" and a slight dig at the community together with a reminder that it's their game and they can do what they want with it. Nothing new here

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              • It's only one of many PR Failures they produced since launch

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              • YUP, they keep mocking us and disrespecting us, yet, you sheeps are buying corney ass emotes that distract me from my normal gameplay. i really do hope people leave this game cause Bungie is full of greedy sarcastic prics.

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                I stopped reading the weekly updates because DeeJ is a douche and I can't stand the way he writes. The weekly updates somehow manage to piss me off. I honestly feel that the hostile community is mostly his fault for being the worst community manager in existence.

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              • Lol.... The defenders see no issue with paying for what you used to get for free.... I've got some ocean front property in Iowa to sell to some of you gullible sheep....lol

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                • I love the game but I agree.. So many stupid stupid STUPID MISTAKES repeated over and over and over and over and over.. It's almost like they are retarded and it just never clicks but idk?.. Maybe I'm just retarded?..

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                  • If I were in charge. Let's rewind to fast forward

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                  • This. I've been saying this for months.

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