i heard these excuses on behalf of bungie countless times, nothing new , for me raids are horrible because of no matchmaking to the point i dont even bother playing anymore ... but since you started this discussion here's my extended take on it for you: //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// [b]this game needs matchmaking for everything because it's a pain to even get a game going[/b] , one has to waste countless hours with various forums spamming , discrimination based on gear/grimoire/light levels is strong in the community , not even speaking about people who kick others right before the rewards SOLUTION: add matchmaking as a option HOW? : simply add it into the game settings to turn matchmaking ON/OFF. if there is a pretty useless option to wear a helmet in the tower there , why isnt a matchmaking option available for those who need it ? i had to add over 500 random people to my friendlist which i mostly met during the initial game where i added em only and never saw em again, for each person i added i had to spend between 5-30 minutes forums spamming and waiting , if i take a generous average of 10 minutes per player im at [b]83 wasted hours only to overcome bad game design[/b] in terms of matchmaking and thats a joke considering the game had a 500M $ budget [b] here's my experience with this current "brilliant" destiny matchmaking[/b]. 1.) start destiny 2.) decide to play something that doesnt have matchmaking 3.) look at my friendlist which has always about 100+ players online but i lost track who they are since i only added em for one game and they busy doing their own stuff 4.) go away from console to my laptop and spam forum threads , one post isnt enough because it gets lost after a minute in the depths of the thread 5.) go back to console to see if there are any friend requests 6.) if no friend requests , repeat steps 4 + 5 7.) if someone responds by just providing a nickname i have to write it down as its hard to memorize nicnames such as xxxSup3rPlayya5678xxx , the go back to enter it into my ps4 and send a friend request (often they already are in the game with another party by the time or not accepting my add because they already play) 8.) after 5-30 minutes depending on the luck i get enough friend requests , sometimes even more than is needed for the game , then i have to decide who to leave out which sucks for me as i hate doing that 9.) while playing with those random people i keep getting more firend requests for my old post from 30 minutes ago which i have to ignore , i hate doing that [b] Optional Matchmaking alternative:[/b] 1.) start destiny 2.) decide to play something , press matchmaking 3.) play with randoms