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Edited by Andrenden: 11/6/2015 10:38:41 AM
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You're clearly not. You've never actually tried to cater to customers have you? You can't put their ideas into a product just because they want them because ultimately they could be bad ideas. If you just blindly insist the customer is always right then you'll make an awful product. Read my other post where I compare customers to babies. They might want to drink hot sauce and it would make them happy to get their way, but you know that it's a bad idea. Yet by not giving into them you've made them unhappy EVEN IF it was for their own good. Here's a link for a good laugh. http://www.ispot.tv/ad/7VzU/ampm-buy-3-get-the-fourth-free#comments In the commercial the guy has cup holders on his arms so he can hold 4 drinks with ease. Naturally you think "Wow! That's a great idea!" Then reality hits, how does one grab his wallet? Ideas are not always good, to insist a customer is always right is bad business and anyone who actually runs a business knows this.
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  • Yes, I have extensive experience in retail management and customer services. There's a difference between letting customers ideas define a product and listening to a customers feedback in order to improve it. In neither case they are wrong. If you're accepting custom and denying them service then your business isn't going anywhere. I also saw the comment where you mentioned you're told not to help people when you're clocked out. So clearly, you're not management of any kind. Don't try and kid anyone on here.

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  • You must be a special kind of stupid. No where did I state that's my current job. I recounted a past experience did you not work as a stock boy in your younger years or did you jump straight to manager?

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  • Actually yeah I did. But hey, stay angry brother.

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  • Really? You skipped entry level positions and went straight to managerial jobs huh? Whose dick did you have to suck to get that sweet deal? Customers are still not always right. Perfect example would be two customers disagreeing with each other. They can't both be right! *however they can still both be wrong*

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  • Lol you make it clearer and clearer the position you occupy with every response. Sorry if it's an alien concept to you for qualified people to get good jobs. I understand. What an absurd counter though, two customers arguing with each other? If there's two customers in a shop arguing with each other in matters relating to your shop, it means YOU have done something wrong. If you had gotten it right, there's no circumstance where two customers would ever come into conflict lol.

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  • Edited by Andrenden: 11/6/2015 10:58:41 AM
    1) Yes, qualified people. Meaning you started at the bottom and worked up to manager somewhere to gain managerial experience that allows you to skip starting positions. Yet you've said you skipped even those and have always been a manager. How did you get qualified to do so? They are not starter level jobs. No one is going to hire someone fresh and unproven in the field to manage anything. 2) I have a focus group, let's say if 10 people *which is still small for a focus group but whatever* 5 of them hate the design of my product, the other 5 love the design. Do I change it or do I leave it? Using this focus group half of my target audience is unhappy but the other half is happy. Which group do I cater to? They can't both be right, someone always has to be wrong.

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  • Lol, a focus group is often about 8-10 people. More to the point, it's a focus group, they're a point of reference in product development. They aren't your customers. I think you should maybe stop discussing the subject. With each argument you produce, you show yourself to have less and less knowledge on the matter.

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  • Your focus group should contain your target audience, or in other words, your customers. That's why you focus on them... You wouldn't bring in a group of 10 year olds and ask them what features they want a rideable lawnmower to have...

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  • Look mate. You're now trying to argue that a customer complaining to you is the same as a focus group. Really, think about that. Focus groups are not customers in your store. They are part of the development of a product BEFORE you sell it to a customer. Your focus group giving you feedback pre launch has absolutely no relevance to a customer giving you feedback instore.

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  • Edited by Andrenden: 11/6/2015 1:20:13 PM
    This isn't about a store... This all started that the customer is always right and it simply is not the case. They can never always be right. It is simply impossible for the reasons I already pointed out. Such as the differing opinions in the focus group, they are your target audience, the customers you are trying to appeal to with your product. If half the group likes what your doing but the other half wants to change then what half is right? They can't both be right for the simple fact that one being right makes the other wrong by process of elimination. You say the ones that want the change are correct? That means the one saying to keep doing what you're doing are wrong and vice versa. You can't appeal to all the customers, what's right for some is not right for all and it's down to the business to market their own way. If you take anything the customer says as right all the time then you'll just flop hard. Simple as that.[spoiler]Also I'm not sure why you think focus groups are not used after a product is released to evaluate the product... If your product isn't connecting with your target audience the way you expected you hold another focus group to find out why...[/spoiler]

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  • You still really don't get it, which is no longer amusing as it is tedious. The circumstances in which a customer is right are irrelevant to a focus group. If someone giving you money is not receiving a service from you, then you are wrong. That is what a customer is. A focus group is not a customer. They are a representation, but they are not a customer. I'm not sure if I can simplify that further for you, to see that your line of argument is irrelevant.

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