Everyone who played Destiny hoping it was the next Halo, are now gone cause Halo is out and its pvp is better than Destiny's. Black Ops 3 is out, all cod fans are on that now and are staying there. You play single player in Destiny? No reason to now thanks to Fallout. Hell, Fallouts gun play is modeled after Destiny, and they have devs from ID helping them. Big team battles and all out land and air vehicle warfare with a wicked universe? Battlefront. Not to mention other niche games. Destiny did good cause it had no competition, now that's a much different story. Also, everyone has something to compare to Destiny, and pretty much every game does it better in some way.