Im sorry I have to copy/paste my other comment here. But as I just was discussing the same thing with the other person and I find it a chore to write it all again. [quote]MMORPGS have this sense of progression where you get the basic game that gets you lets say level 40. Expansion comes out with monsters level 40-60. New players and old players who have not yet reached level 40 need to complete the basic game before they start to tackle out the expansion. Next expansion comes out with monsters 60-80. Again.. You cant play the expansion unless you have completed the previous challenges. This system respects the veteran players and gives challenge and longetivity to new players. Destiny just ramps up new players up there as quickly as possible.. Thats just plain bad[/quote] I have played a lot of MMORPGS and the thing is.. They get larger with the expansions just because they dont ramp up the new players and alts over the content. This also gives the feeling of progression that is much needed in destiny. So in destiny case I would imagine you would need the Vog gear to clear Crota.. You would need Crota gear to beat down Skolas and without Poe gear you couldnt tackle the TTK.