But did you pay real money. That's the whole point behind this. Why waste money that could be used for say Christmas presents or for a better game than destiny on a zone that well let's all face it, isn't that special to go to after the first time. Easier getting a group of friends together and completing the hard raid at least once a week. People complain about pay to win than pay others real money to take them flawless. Just shows how two faced some of the community is

ah, no, of course I did not pay someone. I missed that part of your comment. I just meant that the loot drops are not necessarily shitty.

Good for you. I've gotten out of the 6 flawless run through I've done 4 311-313 hand cannons/auto rifles. Pretty -blam!-ed up.

Ouch. All I can say is that you have to take RNG as a whole. You get to run HM Oryx for five possible drops a week. Completing ToO gives you a 6th drop. Over 3 characters that's 15 drops vs. 18 drops. Sure it should be more rewarding, but I genuinely enjoy ToO and play it with my two friends. The rewards are honestly icing.