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Edited by First Descendant:
11/14/2015 3:59:54 AM
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158 people murdered, By these "peaceful" Muslims. Yet our American Schools want to teach our children the Koran? Come on people wake the hell up, the people that are going on a killing spree in France were taught the same thing the schools are teaching your kids. Do you wanna just sit back and watch your kids become murderers?
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true example of why intelligence levels and educational standards stateside are plummeting.....
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*tips tin foil hat* M'hammad.
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You're a paranoid moron.
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Just because someone reads a Koran doesn't mean they will become murderers. You sir, are just a stupid jerk.
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Studying the Quran actually helps educate the younger generation to not become stupid and ignorant like you, they will learn that the pick and choose system critiques use to fit their argument is biased and untrue, it is very important to read the Quran in its context not just choose quotes to fit your argument to bash the religion.
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Ibn Ishaq: 992 – “Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah.” Ibn Ishaq: 327 – “Allah said, ‘A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.’” Quran (3:56) – “As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help.” Quran (8:12) – “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them”
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You did exactly what I just described, picking and choosing quotes to fit your argument without looking into its context.
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So the quran justifies these quotes?
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Did you happen to get these quotes from "thereligionofpeace.com" if so it's invalid if not you have to read the quotes in its context for e.g. Actually read before and after the quotes and understand what it's referring to instead of being lazy and throwing pick and choose quotes at me leaving me to explain all of it to someone who is to -blam!-ing lazy to research and educate themselves.
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I didn't use that site. Those phrases are easy to understand so don't say that people think of them out of context.
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It's like I'm talking to a brick wall, you have to read the quotes mentioned [u]before[/u] and [u]after[/u] said quote to understand it's [u][b]context[/b][/u], also link the website when you quote something.
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Just a helpful thought, but take the bible and do the same thing. The Qu'ran's context with these quotes still justifies the murders. While the biblical context does the opposite. Just something to compare it too before you ask me where the fûck I got all this from.
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No it does not justify the murders as in the Quran it says taking 1 life is like nurse ring all of human kind
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Give me where the Qu'ran says that
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whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land – it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. Verse (5:32) - English Translation
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I'm confused
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Example?
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Edited by nackno: 12/4/2015 11:01:45 PM@Crazy You are taking it out of context as well. Quran 5:33 (the verse right after the one you qouted) says: "Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment," (other translations call it mischief or evil-doers). There are verses that specify those who are "striving to cause corruption" which means all non muslims. ( http://corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=5&verse=64 )
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"Faux" news impersonation on point! I congratulate you sir.
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seriously mother-blam!-er? just get the -blam!- out you stupid, STUPID -blam!-
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Not every Muslim or person who studies islam is a terroist and a murderer. Just sayin.
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So just because there are unpeacful extremist then that means the peaceful non extremist are automatically extremist
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People have been killing for the sake of religion since the beginning of recorded history, [i]but[/i] ISIS is not Islamic, Muslim is actually a very peaceful religion, they're just cowards trying to use something to justify their actions
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Edited by Der Todesengel: 11/14/2015 4:34:44 PMWe should change the "No true Scotsman" fallacy to "No true Muslim". These people are Islamists. Denying that doesn't change the facts. What is the best course of action is an entirely different discussion. If we cannot even call a spade a spade we're not going to make the right choices. - Der
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http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm Should be educational
