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Edited by OurWildebeest: 11/14/2015 1:30:17 PM
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Offensive but wise suggestion: European countries should deport all Muslims in their borders who are not citizens and do not have legal permanent resident status. Many are innocent. But how do you tell? And they are not citizens. They have no right to be there anyway. But I forgot, "some non-Muslim caused minor damage in a Walmart break room so it it all the same."
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  • "Think of Muslims like this. There's a bowl on M n' Ms, but 10% are poisoned. Do you take a handful?"

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  • [quote]"Think of Muslims like this. There's a bowl on M n' Ms, but 10% are poisoned. Do you take a handful?"[/quote]

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  • [quote]"Think of Muslims like this. There's a bowl on M n' Ms, but 10% are poisoned. Do you take a handful?"[/quote]

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  • [quote][quote]"Think of Muslims like this. There's a bowl on M n' Ms, but 10% are poisoned. Do you take a handful?"[/quote][/quote]

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  • I throw those birches away all of em

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  • It's called refugees dude. I'd love to see you needing to flee America only to be denied because no country wants arogant Americans in their country. Is that fair to all Americans? No, but it ensures no arrogant Americans make it to other countries so whats the problem? Refugees are people without a home, they can't just be deported back to a war zone...

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  • Edited by OurWildebeest: 11/14/2015 3:35:24 PM
    It is unlikely these terrorists were refugees. The refugee wave just happened. These people were organized. However, it is irrelevant. If a country wants to refuse refugees for any reason or no reason, it is that country's right. In this case, there is a really good reason: Muslims keep killing people in host countries. But it is OK - keep your head in the sand, this can keep happening, and you can keep making shrill red herring arguments when people keep pointing out the obvious solution.

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  • When did I say the terrorists were refugees? I'm talking about the majority of people heading into Europe who simply don't want to die. The majority of Muslims coming into these countries are refugees. The majority of people you want to leave and just trying to escape. It's not irrelevant the world needs to be open to refugees, and there need to be international laws protecting them. Where would we be if refugees weren't taken care of? Plenty of genocides would be worse and wars would kill much more civilians. That country should have the good sense to realize the majority of these people need a safe place to live and work with them. A country that denies this just to try to stop something they will never stop is ridiculous. Isis members will always find a way and stopping innocent people from coming will do nothing but put them at risk. That's not a good reason at all, with that logic we should get rid of most guns here considering they are they are always used in school shootings. But you see people talk about it on a person to person basis here. Why not with Isis? It's basically the same situation some people that happen to be affiliated with something kill people and both sides want to get rid of any chance of it happening again. In the case of schools, ban guns, in the case of terrorism ban refugees. And I'm not advocating for guns to be outlawed I'm saying the argument liberals use for gun control is basically the same one you are using for this. To prevent future things from happening we must remove any chance for it to happen. That is not a good strategy at all. Same with war on drugs same basic logic. How exactly is me trying to put you in the shoes of a refugee a red herring fallacy? I'm not changing the subject at all, I'm turning it around on you to see what these refugees face with people like you saying those things. It's still very relevant to your first post. How would you feel if every country didn't want to take you in and were left to the mercy of an invading force? How is getting rid of every Muslim an obvious solution? It's a crack pot solution that will never work. You are simply profiling a group of people because of a few bad eggs. It's like punishing a whole class of kids for one acting up. That is not an obvious answer, there is no obvious answers because this is an extremely complex issue that cant be solved with putting every Muslim on a boat.

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  • >implying you have to be Muslim to commit an act of terror.

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  • Edited by OurWildebeest: 11/14/2015 1:47:44 PM
    No, implying - or rather, openly stating - that there is an extremely high correlation between terrorism and Islam. Not all terrorists are Muslim Not all Muslims are terrorists But is there any serious doubt that fewer Muslims in Europe would mean fewer terror attacks in Europe? Seriously? But nevermind, back to fantasyland pussy footing around the issue ... "The answer is education! Or anything but the actual answer!"

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  • Actually in all major terrorist attacks in the last 25 years, not one of the attackers were from a terrorist state. Deporting non citizen Muslims would do nothing except encourage homegrown Muslim radicals to escalate.

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  • I bet if they kicked out all the poor people they'd have less crime, too. Maybe kick out people that drive so there's less traffic while you're at it.

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  • And how do you propose they tell who's Muslim and who's not?

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  • [quote]And how do you propose they tell who's Muslim and who's not?[/quote] How not? Women wear that rag on their heads, and almost every male has a beard that goes down to their naval.

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  • So France is going to deport people with beards now? This is the best plan ever.

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  • It would be segragation. If you do that you need to do it with everyone. Otherwise it means that you associate muslims with terrorists.

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  • Edited by OurWildebeest: 11/14/2015 1:32:47 PM
    Muslims ARE associated with terrorists. Non-citizens do not have rights, other than basic human rights such as not being killed or imprisoned. If they want to also deport in non-Muslim non-citizens to pretend they aren't singling out Muslims, they can do that, but it would be make believe.

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  • Why use the non-citizen part if you aren't targeting all non-citizens? You're just trying to veil your extreme prejudice

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  • They are not. It's such a retard thing to say. If a christian went wrong we wouldn't blame the whole religion

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