I don't have a problem with a man making a men's only clan. I always think about Dads of Destiny when this comes up, as it often does, on our thread. They have a specific purpose - to support other gaming dads - they offer a great community, and they don't take a tone of hating anyone, just providing support for a certain type of gamer. What's not to support there? Even if that wasn't how they approached things - even if they were rabidly anti-female, that wouldn't mean they wouldn't have a right to have a clan. I respect your right to believe that choosing to create or be part of an identity-based group is always negative, but I have the right to disagree. Creating a safe environment for women in gaming is something I believe to be important - almost every member of our clan can give you multiple examples of times they have joined fireteams only to be kicked, insulted, assumed to be incompetent, or openly sexually harassed on the basis of their being female. We provide a space where that won't occur. I would support any group that wanted to provide a similar space where people wouldn't be treated poorly because of how they identify, especially since, as you've pointed out, no one can control that. Creating safe space for one group of people doesn't mean hating anyone else, as so many people seem to assume. Promoting hate in any form would be counter to what we want to accomplish. As Karza said, we encourage people to enjoy the whole of the Destiny community - no one is required to only play with Sisterhood members, no one is required to carry our clan tag, and no one is asked to give up any other group membership they have. When I read this kind of vitriol from someone who only knows us by our guidelines of being female-only, I have to ask myself why they find us threatening. What is so upsetting about a group of people creating a space for themselves that pushes other people to attack? I think it says more about the person who takes the time to post an attack on our thread than it does about us. Anyway, I hope that you enjoy your time in Destiny and that your clan is successful. Thanks for the bumps you've given our thread - you may not mean to help us advertise by pushing our thread back to the top of the forum, but I appreciate it anyway. Good luck in the world, guardian!