We all have aspects of our identity that grant us privilege, and we all have aspects of our identity that make us part of a target group. If you choose not to examine the intersections of your various identities and see how the ones that grant you privilege interact with the ones that don't, that's your issue not mine. Sitting around comparing who's more oppressed doesn't solve any problems, it only allows the systems of oppression to continue. My pointing that out doesn't invalidate any of my points, it just makes you uncomfortable and defensive. Again, your issue, not mine. We've chosen a particular method to provide a safe space, and no matter how much you insist otherwise, it's a perfectly valid choice. What you seem to have missed is that we've never said we hated men, we've never said our members can't be part of other groups, nor that they can't play with men. We're one of many groups in Destiny, and there's room enough for us all. We fully encourage our members to be part of as many and whatever groups they wish. If you'd taken a second to look at my profile, you'd see that while I'm an admin for Sisterhood (an clearly a staunch supporter), I actually carry a different clan tag. A clan that is co-ed, and whose make members are nothing but supportive of, wait for it, my other, all-female clan. They aren't threatened, bothered, or otherwise feel discriminated against simply because a group exists they can't join. You can rant and rave at me/us all you want, and you can claim whatever insults you want - in the end, you're saying more about yourself than you are about me/us. We get this kind of thing every few days from trolls, and like all the others, you won't keep us from growing a strong, supportive community. I hope you find something more productive to do with your time than tilting at this windmill. Although since any response on the thread bumps it back to the top and helps us advertise, I have to say thank you for helping spread our message. Good luck in the world, guardian.