I had no problem with trials gear being 310+. That mode is hard. But Iron Banner? You could literally just sit and do nothing and get the same light level as trials/HM raid... While Nightfall still gives you nothing worth while.
Edit: It should award 310 maximum light due to the fact it is not the hardest PVP content. Just like NM raid gear is max 310 light. Trials can be 320 and hard raid 320. It just does not make sense to have the lower skill challenge offer similar rewards.
Edit #2: I don't play PVP. I have never once run trials. I just think that IB being on pa with easy mode Kings Fall should drop up to 310 light gear. Why is that unreasonable?
Edit #3: I see a lot of people saying that they either can't do the HM raid or trials. What reason do you have to hit 320 light anyway? I am also in agreement that last Iron Banner loot was terribad. But why not 310 light gear? Puts it on par with the difficulty of the nightfall. 320 is too high for the lack of difficulty. Cheapens trials/HM.
Edit #4: To those saying they don't have time to raid, then spend hours upon hours in Iron Banner... Really? Also to those saying their friends are not on to raid... destinylfg.net, destinylfg.com, the100io, redditlfg, the app you are even posting on has an lfg! No excuse really.
Edit #5: I see a lot of complaining from people who either get reksauced in trials, or are either too incompetent to complete Kings Fall HM (which is easy btw). I guess you can have your super duper easy mode for 310+ gear. Can't wait to have you guys in the raid being herp derps. It will be like the good old VoG days with level 30's in Iron Banner gear, dying every 30 seconds all over again...
Edit #6: For all you players saying... "but how can I get max level solo? I guess us solo players get pooped on!" You. Bought. An. MMO. Game. I have yet to play any game that is considered an MMO, and get the best gear/levels soloing. Never even heard of such a thing... You should not be allowed to get end game gear solo. Period. Don't like that? Get Fallout. It's a great game for solo players (great game over all).
Edit #7: To prove my point on why this is a sham. The next time iron banner is up. I will go in and kill nobody, I will shoot walls and generally be an even worse PVP player than I normally am. Guess what I might get? A roll on possible 320 loot from contributing zero. Hell it should be a negative sum because I will be dragging my team down. I will have the exact same chance as the top guys for the best loot in the game. See the failed logic in this? If I hop in a trials match and do that, it's a guaranteed loss. If I go into the raid and punch the raid mobs and die, it's a guaranteed fail. This is the equivalent of putting a chance on patrol bounties to drop 310+ loot or random chests in patrol doing the same, or regular crucible for that matter!
Edit #8: Multiple people have stated seeing people who are afk. That means the controller was not even in the players hand... getting trials/HM equivalent gear. One guy went 0-14 and got a 320 ghost. This is like a welfare system. Do nothing, ???, Profit.
Final edit: I guess what I am concerned about is hard to voice. So I will tell a short story...
I remember in my youth one of my favorite games was Mechwarrior on Snes I played it non stop for weeks. That game was an absolute grind to get all the best gear, it was maddening sometimes with the incremental increases. So I borrowed my friends Game Genie and was able to buy everything I needed or wanted in the game! I wrecked everything and quit out of boredom within a week of everything being handed to me. Never to pick it up again. When everything is handed to you, and everyone is given an easy route it cheapens the experience. I have always sought out challenges in life because the rewards usually justified the effort.
Does nobody like a challenge anymore? There is a reason why people in life work hard to achieve something worthwhile. Give everyone the same thing and effort dies. Innovation dies.
I have worked my ass off irl to buy a new car, have a nice home to live in, being able to pay all my bills, and put something back for retirement. Think I would work my 50+ hours a week in a stressful environment every week, if the guy/girl who stocks shelves at the local store got the same rewards?
This problem exists with the mentality that "I am alive, therfore I deserve" "I may not have the time nor skill, but I want it"
Trophies being handed out for "participation" will set you on a path for disaster in life.
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I don't have a team for Raid or Trials. No mic. Why be 320 light then? For Iron Banner!!! By your logic us solo players are just supposed to get shit on every Iron Banner by the people who get to do the higher level shit . -blam!- Bungie for giving a path to high light levels for solo players to stand a chance in level enabled Crucible. And it's only 3 pieces of potentially decent gear, once a month, and that's if you get all 3 characters to rank 5. What a senseless, illogical complaint.
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Haters gonna hate
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Go play Minecraft you clueless troll.
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The only drops I've seen over 310 LL is the ghost as an after match reward after getting rank 5 IB, and 1 weapon or armor piece per character after getting to rank 5 IB.
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It's kinda dumb that you can get more 310+ items in one week with Iron Banner than running Kings Fall hard for a month.
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the raid gear is ugly af ... and osiris is reskinned bs ...
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Delete this post.
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Poor snowflake
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You're gonna love the 320 ghosts I had drop and the 316 cloak and the 319 sidearm then. I've never done kings fall as I want to do it with my mates instead of lfg. Hasn't stopped me reaching 310. I'm glad rewards were better this time round as banner wasn't worth running at all. Bungie messed up by doing that to most of year one stuff. At least we've gotten one event back. Hopefully they'll make VoG, Skolas and Crota relevant again too. Never did get that fatebringer.
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Trials and raids are weekly. Iron banner is monthly. Seems only right that you get decent gear from a monthly event. Quit bitching
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Lol...year one did the same thing with iron banner, able to have a chance to rank up to max.
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Kinda see your point but knowing how bungie likes to change things up and cater to the complainers, they probably added this in to take some of the huge grind away. Personally I think it's cool they allow multiple avenues to reach higher light levels. Just wish their were more ways like nightfalls and Oryx or something.
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I got a 320 Ghost, 306 Chest, 300 gauntlets and a 315 helmet. Deal with it. [spoiler]i haven't done the raid yet either.[/spoiler]
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I haven't got a problem with Iron Banner dropping high end gear, seeing as the only other alternatives are the hard raid, Trials and hope you get super lucky in Nightfall, it's good to have another option, plus it gives extra incentive to actually grind it out, it's supposed to be a special event after all.
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It's another route to get max light, the raid is rubbish, and most of my team mates don't bother with trials. So I'm pleased about it. Yes there is no need for 320 at the minute, but come the next dlc, if your not 320 you will be a little bit further behind when it starts.
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It comes once a month. If you are good enough of a player it won't matter if you face someone who isn't good in pvp even if they bumped their light a few spots in this IB. You will be fine. Shut up.
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it's not like it drops super often, and when it does it's rarely over 300 not to mention 310
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Trials isn't the hardest PvP content either, just because it requires a Little fireteam and there's no matchmaking doesn't make it hard..I laugh at the idiots that practice for trials, lol..
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The only 310+ drops I've gotten are from rank 5 packages
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I'm looking for the satire but I don't see it.
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Just stop
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More loot. Better than getting shards or red barred outta trials. Gives people more light to carry you.
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This post is a sham. ( ͡o ͜ʖ ͡o)
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IB was brought about to help guardians who where's unable to get that last piece of gear to level up to 30
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Yeah well you know how many times I've gone through the hard raid and couldn't get a ghost over 300 light I'm glad iron banner drops higher light level gear because I love my new 320 ghost (plus the three 317 ghosts I got), 319 fusion rifle and 313 shotgun, went rank 5 on all three characters. Much more rewarding than kings fall, Iron Banner is the only time I play PvP now anyways
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The problem is that trials doesn't drop 311+ legendaries outside of the 1 primary from the lighthouse.