I had no problem with trials gear being 310+. That mode is hard. But Iron Banner? You could literally just sit and do nothing and get the same light level as trials/HM raid... While Nightfall still gives you nothing worth while.
Edit: It should award 310 maximum light due to the fact it is not the hardest PVP content. Just like NM raid gear is max 310 light. Trials can be 320 and hard raid 320. It just does not make sense to have the lower skill challenge offer similar rewards.
Edit #2: I don't play PVP. I have never once run trials. I just think that IB being on pa with easy mode Kings Fall should drop up to 310 light gear. Why is that unreasonable?
Edit #3: I see a lot of people saying that they either can't do the HM raid or trials. What reason do you have to hit 320 light anyway? I am also in agreement that last Iron Banner loot was terribad. But why not 310 light gear? Puts it on par with the difficulty of the nightfall. 320 is too high for the lack of difficulty. Cheapens trials/HM.
Edit #4: To those saying they don't have time to raid, then spend hours upon hours in Iron Banner... Really? Also to those saying their friends are not on to raid... destinylfg.net, destinylfg.com, the100io, redditlfg, the app you are even posting on has an lfg! No excuse really.
Edit #5: I see a lot of complaining from people who either get reksauced in trials, or are either too incompetent to complete Kings Fall HM (which is easy btw). I guess you can have your super duper easy mode for 310+ gear. Can't wait to have you guys in the raid being herp derps. It will be like the good old VoG days with level 30's in Iron Banner gear, dying every 30 seconds all over again...
Edit #6: For all you players saying... "but how can I get max level solo? I guess us solo players get pooped on!" You. Bought. An. MMO. Game. I have yet to play any game that is considered an MMO, and get the best gear/levels soloing. Never even heard of such a thing... You should not be allowed to get end game gear solo. Period. Don't like that? Get Fallout. It's a great game for solo players (great game over all).
Edit #7: To prove my point on why this is a sham. The next time iron banner is up. I will go in and kill nobody, I will shoot walls and generally be an even worse PVP player than I normally am. Guess what I might get? A roll on possible 320 loot from contributing zero. Hell it should be a negative sum because I will be dragging my team down. I will have the exact same chance as the top guys for the best loot in the game. See the failed logic in this? If I hop in a trials match and do that, it's a guaranteed loss. If I go into the raid and punch the raid mobs and die, it's a guaranteed fail. This is the equivalent of putting a chance on patrol bounties to drop 310+ loot or random chests in patrol doing the same, or regular crucible for that matter!
Edit #8: Multiple people have stated seeing people who are afk. That means the controller was not even in the players hand... getting trials/HM equivalent gear. One guy went 0-14 and got a 320 ghost. This is like a welfare system. Do nothing, ???, Profit.
Final edit: I guess what I am concerned about is hard to voice. So I will tell a short story...
I remember in my youth one of my favorite games was Mechwarrior on Snes I played it non stop for weeks. That game was an absolute grind to get all the best gear, it was maddening sometimes with the incremental increases. So I borrowed my friends Game Genie and was able to buy everything I needed or wanted in the game! I wrecked everything and quit out of boredom within a week of everything being handed to me. Never to pick it up again. When everything is handed to you, and everyone is given an easy route it cheapens the experience. I have always sought out challenges in life because the rewards usually justified the effort.
Does nobody like a challenge anymore? There is a reason why people in life work hard to achieve something worthwhile. Give everyone the same thing and effort dies. Innovation dies.
I have worked my ass off irl to buy a new car, have a nice home to live in, being able to pay all my bills, and put something back for retirement. Think I would work my 50+ hours a week in a stressful environment every week, if the guy/girl who stocks shelves at the local store got the same rewards?
This problem exists with the mentality that "I am alive, therfore I deserve" "I may not have the time nor skill, but I want it"
Trophies being handed out for "participation" will set you on a path for disaster in life.
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We've been able to reach max light from IB gear in past DLCs, why should it change now?
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People got a total of 1 piece per character and IB won't hit for another month.....trials and HM raid you can get multiple pieces per character per week every week. It's ridiculous people believe that 3 pieces of 310+ equipment a month is a problem considering the time commitment.
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"I raid and other don't so I deserve the best gear, not them!" Get. The -blam!-. Over it.
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I think trials and hard mode Oryx should guarantee (at least) one 320 light weapon/armor. This grinding to get a random 300-320 drop on hard mode Oryx is redicoulous. Trials is the only saving grace. Highest light items I obtained from Iron Banner were 310 ghost shells... so yeah I'm bitter.
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I don't do raids and dislike ToO. IB Gear with high light lvl is just fine. IB Gear has always given good Gear to get high lvl. It has done so since year 1 so why change it?
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an argument can be made that Iron banner is the toughest mode for 6s, so 310-320 light gear are fair drops.
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Muted
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There's no pleasing these crybabies.
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This game is already such a grind might as well make it easier on us.
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Multiple ways to get something done...hell yea...destiny finally got me into the crucible i ranked all 3
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If kings fall is easy then I don't see why iron banana is a problem.
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That's the point more ways to hit max light. sorry you can't be a special snowflake grow up learn to smile.
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You are poison , You can't just be happy for people , S U C K a TU RD
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This is how they 'solved' the 'forever 29' problem. You like PVP: ToO or IB. You like PVE: CoO or TTK raid. You think it's unfair, don't play, Bungie already spoke... Sorry to be blunt, but, complain about things that actually matter. This is a video game... You know, an electronic toy...
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Your dad should of beat your ass more. Maybe mom could sneak in a few kicks idk.
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Thanks to banner I got 320 ghost, 316 helmet, 310 arms, and 2 309 chest's in one day, but can't get a single drop in the raid armor drop that is not 300 boots in 6 runs!!!!
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Running 3 titans.......3 of the same class people, we all know what that means.
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People find the most ridiculous things to complain about. Noooo! Not better drops!
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I sat and pretty much did nothing in trials and got 2 weapons over 310.
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Reksauced? Lol, what a douche.
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You're looking at it the wrong way if you love Destiny. Bungie is kind of backed into a corner with the lack of viable content to keep players from jumping from the sinking ship. There's just too many other quality games being released right now and they had to do something to keep players around to bail water. I'm cool if it keeps Destiny somewhat relevant through the holidays.
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Edit #9 - Your an asshole. Edit #10 - Your an asshole. Edit #11 - Your an asshole.
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i can't get the HM helmet to drop for the life of me. did i take all three of my characters into IB for a chance at some better gear? damn right i did. wish i'd managed to score some of the great stuff i saw my friends getting (one even had a 320 IB ghost drop in his final match on one character!) but at least i can say i'm doing everything i can to get to max level before KF Challenge Mode hits eventually. it's not my fault i'm only 314 on my max character, blame RNGeezus for not having seen fit to bless me. if IB had no chance of dropping raid-level gear, i would not have bothered with it at all this week. People will still play trials to get to the Lighthouse so they can sh!t all over everyone else who can't get there for whatever reason, but who would want to play IB without some serious incentive? besides, after last IB where nothing dropped, you can't say they didn't owe us a little.
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I take it your one of the guys who thought the rewards were shit then learned afterwards they were great? and now your pissed off cus your one of the few guys who dont have the good stuff therefor no one else should. stop me if im wrong. and before you say it ive been flawless already and I do raids aswel. its just fun and rewarding plain and simple. you don't like it? tough
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Destiny was a sham.
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It's a kick in the gut to those who worked at beating Hard Mode or Have run trials flawless....not everyone is at the same skill level.....it's that sad idea that everyone deserves an award......which is partly why people now a days don't even work for anything anymore.....