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Edited by MrBelugaBiscuit: 11/24/2015 10:26:45 PM
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Iron Banner dropping 310-320 gear is a sham.

I had no problem with trials gear being 310+. That mode is hard. But Iron Banner? You could literally just sit and do nothing and get the same light level as trials/HM raid... While Nightfall still gives you nothing worth while. Edit: It should award 310 maximum light due to the fact it is not the hardest PVP content. Just like NM raid gear is max 310 light. Trials can be 320 and hard raid 320. It just does not make sense to have the lower skill challenge offer similar rewards. Edit #2: I don't play PVP. I have never once run trials. I just think that IB being on pa with easy mode Kings Fall should drop up to 310 light gear. Why is that unreasonable? Edit #3: I see a lot of people saying that they either can't do the HM raid or trials. What reason do you have to hit 320 light anyway? I am also in agreement that last Iron Banner loot was terribad. But why not 310 light gear? Puts it on par with the difficulty of the nightfall. 320 is too high for the lack of difficulty. Cheapens trials/HM. Edit #4: To those saying they don't have time to raid, then spend hours upon hours in Iron Banner... Really? Also to those saying their friends are not on to raid... destinylfg.net, destinylfg.com, the100io, redditlfg, the app you are even posting on has an lfg! No excuse really. Edit #5: I see a lot of complaining from people who either get reksauced in trials, or are either too incompetent to complete Kings Fall HM (which is easy btw). I guess you can have your super duper easy mode for 310+ gear. Can't wait to have you guys in the raid being herp derps. It will be like the good old VoG days with level 30's in Iron Banner gear, dying every 30 seconds all over again... Edit #6: For all you players saying... "but how can I get max level solo? I guess us solo players get pooped on!" You. Bought. An. MMO. Game. I have yet to play any game that is considered an MMO, and get the best gear/levels soloing. Never even heard of such a thing... You should not be allowed to get end game gear solo. Period. Don't like that? Get Fallout. It's a great game for solo players (great game over all). Edit #7: To prove my point on why this is a sham. The next time iron banner is up. I will go in and kill nobody, I will shoot walls and generally be an even worse PVP player than I normally am. Guess what I might get? A roll on possible 320 loot from contributing zero. Hell it should be a negative sum because I will be dragging my team down. I will have the exact same chance as the top guys for the best loot in the game. See the failed logic in this? If I hop in a trials match and do that, it's a guaranteed loss. If I go into the raid and punch the raid mobs and die, it's a guaranteed fail. This is the equivalent of putting a chance on patrol bounties to drop 310+ loot or random chests in patrol doing the same, or regular crucible for that matter! Edit #8: Multiple people have stated seeing people who are afk. That means the controller was not even in the players hand... getting trials/HM equivalent gear. One guy went 0-14 and got a 320 ghost. This is like a welfare system. Do nothing, ???, Profit. Final edit: I guess what I am concerned about is hard to voice. So I will tell a short story... I remember in my youth one of my favorite games was Mechwarrior on Snes I played it non stop for weeks. That game was an absolute grind to get all the best gear, it was maddening sometimes with the incremental increases. So I borrowed my friends Game Genie and was able to buy everything I needed or wanted in the game! I wrecked everything and quit out of boredom within a week of everything being handed to me. Never to pick it up again. When everything is handed to you, and everyone is given an easy route it cheapens the experience. I have always sought out challenges in life because the rewards usually justified the effort. Does nobody like a challenge anymore? There is a reason why people in life work hard to achieve something worthwhile. Give everyone the same thing and effort dies. Innovation dies. I have worked my ass off irl to buy a new car, have a nice home to live in, being able to pay all my bills, and put something back for retirement. Think I would work my 50+ hours a week in a stressful environment every week, if the guy/girl who stocks shelves at the local store got the same rewards? This problem exists with the mentality that "I am alive, therfore I deserve" "I may not have the time nor skill, but I want it" Trophies being handed out for "participation" will set you on a path for disaster in life.

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  • I got a 320 cloak ;)

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  • Sorry but three of the same class after a year? Your opinion is invalid since you took the easy route for gear

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  • King's Fall hard: Easy raid, completed in less than an hour, with 5 sources of up to 320 loot. Resets every week. IB: Grind fest that can take several hours once a month for just one guaranteed up to 320 loot. In resume: Quit crying.

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    • It's monthly, not weekly, and drops one. Read it one, 310-320 item. If it didn't, how many 310+ would even bother?

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      • I don't agree with anything you've posted here. I'm happy other guardians are getting stronger. Maybe they'll be able to tackle HM raids a little sooner.

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      • Stop being so concerned with everyone else's light level. It literally doesn't affect you at all. Thanks

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      • Edited by Talktofranky: 11/24/2015 2:44:27 PM
        Fuçking pathetic - get a grip and realise there's more important things in life. How does another players' light level effect YOU?

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      • Wow. People are just becoming bigger and bigger whiners and crybabies. Get over it you PANSY! It's just a video game!

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      • Sorry didn't read all( I know I know) They are DESPERATE man what you think! Lol

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      • Edited by JJtheMachine: 11/24/2015 2:48:44 PM
        Actually, you can get a team to carry you through HM raids and just sit there AFK the whole time and still get the best loot. I didn't see anyone get anything 310+ from IB except in the Level 3 and 5 packages so it would seem that what you saw was a rarity not the norm. I would concede that it probably shouldn't give you anything greater than 10 past your max light level though.

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      • All the activities that you mention hard raid and trials requires getting an invite. Please don't forget the discriminatory posts in this forum for all activities that can drop higher light level gear..let me remind you: LFG Kings Fall Hardmode need 2 require 310 light, ToM, Black Spindle..No knight strategy. Can I join I know the raid I'm just 301 light - nope sorry man your DPS just won't help. ToO have completion badge or don't respond to the message and a KD of 1.5+ I Bungie does a good job at letting people be pretty little snowflakes for awhile and then floods the market with same level gear...and now the snowflakes look the same. But guess who is upset?

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      • The better question is why the -blam!- do you care so much? It's a once a month thing. I worked pretty hard for the two 310+ items I got this week. You know, because I'm the guy who usually has to carry my shitty ass teamates who sit in the corner shooting walls just to watch them pull that 320 ghost while I get a blue. That's my problem with IB, shitty players are consistently rewarded with good gear while I don't get shit. I literally only pulled one IB item from the end of match rewards this whole IB. It was an "amazing" 284 chest piece. Hooray! And that's through 2 characters to rank 5.

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      • I would only counter with, we have to get 320 gear somehow because for me it sure isn't through the raid.

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        • [quote]You could literally just sit and do nothing and get the same light level as trials/HM raid...[/quote] No one ever won an Iron Banner match by sitting down and doing nothing. [quote]Edit #2: I don't play PVP. I have never once run trials. I just think that IB being on pa with easy mode Kings Fall should drop up to 310 light gear. Why is that unreasonable?[/quote] Because not everyone has the time or patience to raid and they would still like to get past 300+ Light.

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        • Sorry Charlie, none of my friends WANT to do ToO and none of them are doing the raid anymore either. I refuse to use sites that are out of the game to set-up a game. I've been preaching all along that Bungie needs to add OPTIONAL matchmaking, until then, the raid will just sit there for me. The reason Bungie did this for the IB was for people LIKE ME that primarily play PvE, minus ToO and the raid. I had been stuck at 295 for months until this IB came along and it rewarded me greatly and I'm not complaining one bit. It was the MOST FUN I've had in IB since the game launched in 2014. You're entitled to your opinion, but I bet 95 percent of the Destiny world would agree with me. Cheers

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          • people like this are why there is a mute option on the forum...

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          • It's once a damn month you crybaby. Some people will never even do the raid. Give them a chance and stop pretending like you're good [spoiler]you're not[/spoiler]

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          • I know many people that really needed that extra push to reach 309 or something so they could do the raid. I honestly am happy that my friend who can't do trials braces he's not good enough or hard oryx because he's not high enough got that small push in his light and now is able to do hard kings all thanks to iron banner. You may look at it as unfair but it was really needed. Iron banner comes around once a month and is very fun. Getting a drop over 310 was a making for me and many. I went flawless multiple times and killed oryx 25 times. I may not necessarily need it but it is a good reason to do iron banner . I would hate it if I did iron banner just to reach rank 5 and get a 300 item. I would rage and probably not wanna do it. I reached rank 5 on all 3 characters and rewards were random enough for me to not depend on the drops to make me make high light. You may not understand it but people who spend their days to grind 100% deserve their over 300 drops.

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          • Didn't even bother to read, just grow up

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          • If you were gonna do that then hard mode should ACTUALLY drop 320 gear at a resonable rate (to which it currently does not)

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          • It was good that it did, because it attracted players who are high level to play. It was crap because the drops were random and high level players didn't get high level drops.

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          • Nothing should drop 311+ except the hard raid....

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            • Who gives a flying -blam!- ! Whiney little Bitches like you are the main reason this game is a shit pile.

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            • i agree, i think if you don't do HM you shouldn't get HM level loot, and if you don't do ToO you shouldn't get ToO level loot

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            • The irony being if you are competitive in ToO then you will dominate IB so what's the problem?

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            • I quit destiny about 3 weeks ago and won't be back, but it's this very reason all of the grinding that sucks. I bet in 6 months I could come back and get the same gear as you after you wasted 6 months of addictive grinding. Bungie uses this game like a casino, instead of making it fun and interesting. I have been playing Battlefront and it's so much better. I can match make into any game, there are no carrots all weapons are properly balanced. Mostly because DICE is good at weapon balancing. I can switch from 1st to third person on the run. Has been so much more fun and thank god for Battlefront, Mad Max and the Witcher for breaking my day 1 destiny addiction

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