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Edited by MrBelugaBiscuit: 11/24/2015 10:26:45 PM
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Iron Banner dropping 310-320 gear is a sham.

I had no problem with trials gear being 310+. That mode is hard. But Iron Banner? You could literally just sit and do nothing and get the same light level as trials/HM raid... While Nightfall still gives you nothing worth while. Edit: It should award 310 maximum light due to the fact it is not the hardest PVP content. Just like NM raid gear is max 310 light. Trials can be 320 and hard raid 320. It just does not make sense to have the lower skill challenge offer similar rewards. Edit #2: I don't play PVP. I have never once run trials. I just think that IB being on pa with easy mode Kings Fall should drop up to 310 light gear. Why is that unreasonable? Edit #3: I see a lot of people saying that they either can't do the HM raid or trials. What reason do you have to hit 320 light anyway? I am also in agreement that last Iron Banner loot was terribad. But why not 310 light gear? Puts it on par with the difficulty of the nightfall. 320 is too high for the lack of difficulty. Cheapens trials/HM. Edit #4: To those saying they don't have time to raid, then spend hours upon hours in Iron Banner... Really? Also to those saying their friends are not on to raid... destinylfg.net, destinylfg.com, the100io, redditlfg, the app you are even posting on has an lfg! No excuse really. Edit #5: I see a lot of complaining from people who either get reksauced in trials, or are either too incompetent to complete Kings Fall HM (which is easy btw). I guess you can have your super duper easy mode for 310+ gear. Can't wait to have you guys in the raid being herp derps. It will be like the good old VoG days with level 30's in Iron Banner gear, dying every 30 seconds all over again... Edit #6: For all you players saying... "but how can I get max level solo? I guess us solo players get pooped on!" You. Bought. An. MMO. Game. I have yet to play any game that is considered an MMO, and get the best gear/levels soloing. Never even heard of such a thing... You should not be allowed to get end game gear solo. Period. Don't like that? Get Fallout. It's a great game for solo players (great game over all). Edit #7: To prove my point on why this is a sham. The next time iron banner is up. I will go in and kill nobody, I will shoot walls and generally be an even worse PVP player than I normally am. Guess what I might get? A roll on possible 320 loot from contributing zero. Hell it should be a negative sum because I will be dragging my team down. I will have the exact same chance as the top guys for the best loot in the game. See the failed logic in this? If I hop in a trials match and do that, it's a guaranteed loss. If I go into the raid and punch the raid mobs and die, it's a guaranteed fail. This is the equivalent of putting a chance on patrol bounties to drop 310+ loot or random chests in patrol doing the same, or regular crucible for that matter! Edit #8: Multiple people have stated seeing people who are afk. That means the controller was not even in the players hand... getting trials/HM equivalent gear. One guy went 0-14 and got a 320 ghost. This is like a welfare system. Do nothing, ???, Profit. Final edit: I guess what I am concerned about is hard to voice. So I will tell a short story... I remember in my youth one of my favorite games was Mechwarrior on Snes I played it non stop for weeks. That game was an absolute grind to get all the best gear, it was maddening sometimes with the incremental increases. So I borrowed my friends Game Genie and was able to buy everything I needed or wanted in the game! I wrecked everything and quit out of boredom within a week of everything being handed to me. Never to pick it up again. When everything is handed to you, and everyone is given an easy route it cheapens the experience. I have always sought out challenges in life because the rewards usually justified the effort. Does nobody like a challenge anymore? There is a reason why people in life work hard to achieve something worthwhile. Give everyone the same thing and effort dies. Innovation dies. I have worked my ass off irl to buy a new car, have a nice home to live in, being able to pay all my bills, and put something back for retirement. Think I would work my 50+ hours a week in a stressful environment every week, if the guy/girl who stocks shelves at the local store got the same rewards? This problem exists with the mentality that "I am alive, therfore I deserve" "I may not have the time nor skill, but I want it" Trophies being handed out for "participation" will set you on a path for disaster in life.

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  • The loot along with the switch to Clash made this Iron Banner the best to date. Why get butthurt over other players having fun and getting good loot? This type of mentality is why the forums are toxic. Good job with Iron Banner loot Bungie, keep up the good work!

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  • You said it yourself ... Hard mode is easy. So is iron banner. So is getting a 320 exotic from a trials reward package. I don't see what the issue is.

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    • #FixNightfall

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    • Considering all the camping trash I put up with, it was worth it.

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      • Putting up with Sunbreakers, I deserve gear at 400 minimum

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        • 310 artifact here and a 310 ghost, but that ghost was disgusting!!! So I just infused it.

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        • Who cares. Freakin noob

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        • Just stfu, no one is going to read this huge wall of butthurt.

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        • Why do you care what other people receive? It's called sour grapes.

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        • Its about time decent level gear was released in IB. I for one was more than happy.

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        • Edited by Vultur 97: 11/24/2015 8:40:41 AM
          1st TTK Iron Banner Drops: 260-290 Community: "WTF Bungie, you assh*les, the IB isn't worth enough to play it, f*ck you, f*ck your families, f*ck your dog, etc" 2nd TTK Iron Banner Saladin Stock - 280 Drops - 280-320 Rank 5 Package - 310-320 loot that isn't in Saladin's stock Community: "WTF Bungie, you assh*les, the IB drops are too good for the non-raid/non-trials scrubs, I'm the only one who has the rights to get good drops and they should only get 30-50 light white items, for being scrubs, I hate you, I'm going to Fallout/Battlefront and I'll speak shit about you in my blog, where 5 people are following me, you'll be in bankruptcy in 2 days" [spoiler]3rd TTK Iron Banner Saladin Stock: non-infusable 171 light Gjallahorn Drops: non-infusable 175 light Gjallahorn 200-210 light non-infusable middle-finger Community: "WTF Bungie, I saw a 0.34 scrub getting a 208 middle finger, I've been here since the pre-alpha and I didn't get mine yet, your game sucks, I'm going back to play Candy Crush"[/spoiler]

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        • Seems like someone hasn't been playing long enough to remember that the IB is an alternative way to get the high light gear since the first IB dropped and your just now crying bet you suck an couldn't even get rank 5 is that why you're mad?

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        • GTFO!

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        • its just another avenue to get people to do IB... or an additional way for people that haven't/interested in KF raiding to get somewhat decent gear.. i see no problem with it but hey, you're rocking three titans soooo...

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        • The rng reward system is so stupid during iron banner. 9/10 times the bottom 3 players get the rewards. They need to adjust it so that maybe only the top 2 or 3 players are eligible for 300+ light gear. Im sick of being top scorer and getting jack shit.

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          • Alright people lets make a line to slap OP come come don't cut anyone we will all get the chance to slap him

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            • Elitist bitch detected.

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            • I agree it should have been capped at 310. Only just started raiding so used to use iron banner as a way of levelling up my gear but always accepted it was never going to be as good as raid gear. I have taken full advantage this time and got me a few nice bits though 😉

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            • Edited by Hellekeen: 11/24/2015 11:44:49 AM
              please go and hit yourself on the head with a plastic bottle..... Destiny needs MORE ways for 320 gear and not less. and you get booted to orbit if you are afk for 2 mins in IB ( i tried it)

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            • There's always someone who doesn't want people to level up, so they can be the special snowflake.

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            • Bungie said that their should be more than one way to get to max level without raiding so theirs your answer

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            • Yes but the reason they do it is because the 310+ weapons are only possible from rank 5 and trials doesn't give 310+ armor so its another mode for pvp players or people who don't raid to get better armor and possibly weapons.

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            • Iron banner used to give the highest lvl gear, why shouldn't it anymore?

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            • Why do you even care? Who cares what people get as rewards for this? Why are people so elitist in this game? Yes I'm a casual. And yes, I don't have time to raid right now. Why? Because I have a crap ton of stuff to do and a kid who needs attention. So if I don't have time why can I spend hours on IB? Because you don't need tons of consecutive hours for IB. You can get on and play for 40 min here. An hour there. 30 min there. No other end game content lets you do that. I don't have time to do lfg, then raid for hours at a time when I may have to go afk every 30 min. That's not someone I'd want to raid with. I'm not gonna subject random strangers to that. That is incredibly rude to expect people to carry me by doing that. I don't get why people freak about about IB being "noob" mode or something. Why do people even care? Stop using your light level as a validation of self worth and just let people play the game. It is a game!

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            • somone is butthurt coz he didnt compete?

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            • Elitist bullshit.

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