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Edited by MrBelugaBiscuit: 11/24/2015 10:26:45 PM
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Iron Banner dropping 310-320 gear is a sham.

I had no problem with trials gear being 310+. That mode is hard. But Iron Banner? You could literally just sit and do nothing and get the same light level as trials/HM raid... While Nightfall still gives you nothing worth while. Edit: It should award 310 maximum light due to the fact it is not the hardest PVP content. Just like NM raid gear is max 310 light. Trials can be 320 and hard raid 320. It just does not make sense to have the lower skill challenge offer similar rewards. Edit #2: I don't play PVP. I have never once run trials. I just think that IB being on pa with easy mode Kings Fall should drop up to 310 light gear. Why is that unreasonable? Edit #3: I see a lot of people saying that they either can't do the HM raid or trials. What reason do you have to hit 320 light anyway? I am also in agreement that last Iron Banner loot was terribad. But why not 310 light gear? Puts it on par with the difficulty of the nightfall. 320 is too high for the lack of difficulty. Cheapens trials/HM. Edit #4: To those saying they don't have time to raid, then spend hours upon hours in Iron Banner... Really? Also to those saying their friends are not on to raid... destinylfg.net, destinylfg.com, the100io, redditlfg, the app you are even posting on has an lfg! No excuse really. Edit #5: I see a lot of complaining from people who either get reksauced in trials, or are either too incompetent to complete Kings Fall HM (which is easy btw). I guess you can have your super duper easy mode for 310+ gear. Can't wait to have you guys in the raid being herp derps. It will be like the good old VoG days with level 30's in Iron Banner gear, dying every 30 seconds all over again... Edit #6: For all you players saying... "but how can I get max level solo? I guess us solo players get pooped on!" You. Bought. An. MMO. Game. I have yet to play any game that is considered an MMO, and get the best gear/levels soloing. Never even heard of such a thing... You should not be allowed to get end game gear solo. Period. Don't like that? Get Fallout. It's a great game for solo players (great game over all). Edit #7: To prove my point on why this is a sham. The next time iron banner is up. I will go in and kill nobody, I will shoot walls and generally be an even worse PVP player than I normally am. Guess what I might get? A roll on possible 320 loot from contributing zero. Hell it should be a negative sum because I will be dragging my team down. I will have the exact same chance as the top guys for the best loot in the game. See the failed logic in this? If I hop in a trials match and do that, it's a guaranteed loss. If I go into the raid and punch the raid mobs and die, it's a guaranteed fail. This is the equivalent of putting a chance on patrol bounties to drop 310+ loot or random chests in patrol doing the same, or regular crucible for that matter! Edit #8: Multiple people have stated seeing people who are afk. That means the controller was not even in the players hand... getting trials/HM equivalent gear. One guy went 0-14 and got a 320 ghost. This is like a welfare system. Do nothing, ???, Profit. Final edit: I guess what I am concerned about is hard to voice. So I will tell a short story... I remember in my youth one of my favorite games was Mechwarrior on Snes I played it non stop for weeks. That game was an absolute grind to get all the best gear, it was maddening sometimes with the incremental increases. So I borrowed my friends Game Genie and was able to buy everything I needed or wanted in the game! I wrecked everything and quit out of boredom within a week of everything being handed to me. Never to pick it up again. When everything is handed to you, and everyone is given an easy route it cheapens the experience. I have always sought out challenges in life because the rewards usually justified the effort. Does nobody like a challenge anymore? There is a reason why people in life work hard to achieve something worthwhile. Give everyone the same thing and effort dies. Innovation dies. I have worked my ass off irl to buy a new car, have a nice home to live in, being able to pay all my bills, and put something back for retirement. Think I would work my 50+ hours a week in a stressful environment every week, if the guy/girl who stocks shelves at the local store got the same rewards? This problem exists with the mentality that "I am alive, therfore I deserve" "I may not have the time nor skill, but I want it" Trophies being handed out for "participation" will set you on a path for disaster in life.

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  • Elitist bullshit.

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  • OP made this post to overcompensate for his small wang

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  • OMG your medal score

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  • Why are you complaining about a system that drops for 1 week

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  • As if hard raid is "hard". I know far more people who struggle to complete weekly IB bounties and hit rank 5 than who struggle to complete raids.

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  • I got a 319 ghost shell from ib.

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    • Trials isn't hard it's juts full of try hard cheats! Has been since day one. Currently it's full of titans and broke ass snipers. Iron Banner is a once a month even so if anything it should be giving better gear than the weekly trials nonsense.

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      • Got myself a 320 adept Water Star for flawless in Trials, and many other high tier bits for completing the bounties. Got myself a 313 Hunter helm from Iron Banner, plus a 311 titan helm and a couple of 315+ ghosts. Got some 320 armour and weapons from the raid. So freakin' what? I play it all and will not begrudge anyone the high tier loot of whichever mode they want to play, I certainly won't be complaining that those modes all drop high tier loot for hitting the jackpot. I'm all for it. Gives me more chances to gain a varied collection of the gear on offer. Plus, the titan especially looks better in full IB gear than it does Trials gear. I'll have that any day!

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      • [quote]I had no problem with trials gear being 310+. That mode is hard. But Iron Banner? You could literally just sit and do nothing and get the same light level as trials/HM raid... While Nightfall still gives you nothing worth while. Edit: It should award 310 maximum light due to the fact it is not the hardest PVP content. Just like NM raid gear is max 310 light. Trials can be 320 and hard raid 320. It just does not make sense to have the lower skill challenge offer similar rewards. Edit #2: I don't play PVP. I have never once run trials. I just think that IB being on pa with easy mode Kings Fall should drop up to 310 light gear. Why is that unreasonable? Edit #3: I see a lot of people saying that they either can't do the HM raid or trials. What reason do you have to hit 320 light anyway? I am also in agreement that last Iron Banner loot was terribad. But why not 310 light gear? Puts it on par with the difficulty of the nightfall. 320 is too high for the lack of difficulty. Cheapens trials/HM. Edit #4: To those saying they don't have time to raid, then spend hours upon hours in Iron Banner... Really? Also to those saying their friends are not on to raid... destinylfg.net, destinylfg.com, the100io, redditlfg, the app you are even posting on has an lfg! No excuse really. Edit #5: I see a lot of complaining from people who either get reksauced in trials, or are either too incompetent to complete Kings Fall HM (which is easy btw). I guess you can have your super duper easy mode for 310+ gear. Can't wait to have you guys in the raid being herp derps. It will be like the good old VoG days with level 30's in Iron Banner gear, dying every 30 seconds all over again... Edit #6: For all you players saying... "but how can I get max level solo? I guess us solo players get pooped on!" You. Bought. An. MMO. Game. I have yet to play any game that is considered an MMO, and get the best gear/levels soloing. Never even heard of such a thing... You should not be allowed to get end game gear solo. Period. Don't like that? Get Fallout. It's a great game for solo players (great game over all). Edit #7: To prove my point on why this is a sham. The next time iron banner is up. I will go in and kill nobody, I will shoot walls and generally be an even worse PVP player than I normally am. Guess what I might get? A roll on possible 320 loot from contributing zero. Hell it should be a negative sum because I will be dragging my team down. I will have the exact same chance as the top guys for the best loot in the game. See the failed logic in this? If I hop in a trials match and do that, it's a guaranteed loss. If I go into the raid and punch the raid mobs and die, it's a guaranteed fail. This is the equivalent of putting a chance on patrol bounties to drop 310+ loot or random chests in patrol doing the same, or regular crucible for that matter! Edit #8: Multiple people have stated seeing people who are afk. That means the controller was not even in the players hand... getting trials/HM equivalent gear. One guy went 0-14 and got a 320 ghost. This is like a welfare system. Do nothing, ???, Profit.[/quote] Fgt

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        • You haven't been destiny long have you? Raid, Iron Banner and Trials have always been on par with each other.

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          • Thats nice. Bitch in silence fool.

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          • Edited by Arman GT: 11/24/2015 10:05:29 AM
            edit #9: I just realized that the only 310+ from non-pkg is almost only a ghost, so who gives a shit.

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          • Edited by GoonerGuy8: 11/24/2015 10:15:52 AM
            Everyone who agrees with you are pathetic elitist. How does 300+ gear dropping in IB effect you?

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          • Well there's gotta be a way for the non-try-hards and solo players to get a little somethin.

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          • IB = NM ToO = HM That made enough sense. I agree.

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          • You are right, just the best or those who do hard raid should get the best stuff!

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          • I partly agree. Banner isn't as simple as do nothing but it's a lot easier than trials. I'm really annoyed that bungie just gave trials renamed gear. It's the height of laziness to change the name but other than that all the armour is identical. The weapons aren't exactly different either. The sniper scout and hand cannon all look the same The fact my trials helm is 306 but my banner one dropped at 319 is pretty dumb.

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          • LololoL @ sorry ass elitists.

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          • Why should a player be unable to obtain highest light gear just because they play solo? There should be a path to the light cap available to everyone, not just for Trials and Raid elitists. It's all RNG anyway, most people didn't even get a 320 item....

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            • You say you tht trials is ok to drop 310-320 gear because its hard.... Well i shall let u in on a secret the gold tier bounty for trials can be done easier and quicker than getting to the higher ranks in ib. im not very gd at trials (still learning to snipe and not very gd at the moment) im an ok pvp but not great either way went in with 2 ppl in trials tht dont play pvp n will say them selves aint very gd. 2 cards later boom gold tier reward granted i got only 310 but there is the pos of getting over 310 My point is, its easy but im not complaining i know find trials fun and so do my friends its still exciting at the prospect of getting good enough to go flawless. but also ppl like get a reward for actually trying Also as far as i know bar rank 5 rewards is it not only pos to get over 310 ghosts? On this tho i maybe wrong

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            • Shut the -blam!- up. People like you should have fewer opinions because they are all stupid.

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              • Edited by Grumpy Glenn: 11/24/2015 9:30:11 AM
                It is what it is ;-)

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                • I don't lfg because I don't like wasting time. Iron Banner dropping high gear is perfect because I solo most of the time and friends are douches and raid without me. Hate trials. Iron Banner is by far my favorite thing to do in this game other than the Vault of Glass so with it dropping up to 320 light gear it is perfect for me.

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                • I'm gonna challenge you to "sit and do nothing" Next Iron Banner I want you to sit down until you reach rank 5. By my reckon you won't complete any bounties. Probably lose 5 OK the run. Maybe get lucky and win one every now and again. Probably get booted to orbit A LOT.

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                  • Can you please clarify your position a bit more? I'm still unclear... how about people who don't WANT to waste their time running KF HM over, and over, and over, and over, and over to infuse over, and over, and over again... and maybe gain a bee's dick worth of light from the raid trash drops. The game has run its course. Who frickin' cares dude? Seriously.

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                  • TL-DR: OP is sad because the only thing that made him feel special in this life was having 310+ light in Destiny, and now has nothing to live for.

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