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Edited by MrBelugaBiscuit: 11/24/2015 10:26:45 PM
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Iron Banner dropping 310-320 gear is a sham.

I had no problem with trials gear being 310+. That mode is hard. But Iron Banner? You could literally just sit and do nothing and get the same light level as trials/HM raid... While Nightfall still gives you nothing worth while. Edit: It should award 310 maximum light due to the fact it is not the hardest PVP content. Just like NM raid gear is max 310 light. Trials can be 320 and hard raid 320. It just does not make sense to have the lower skill challenge offer similar rewards. Edit #2: I don't play PVP. I have never once run trials. I just think that IB being on pa with easy mode Kings Fall should drop up to 310 light gear. Why is that unreasonable? Edit #3: I see a lot of people saying that they either can't do the HM raid or trials. What reason do you have to hit 320 light anyway? I am also in agreement that last Iron Banner loot was terribad. But why not 310 light gear? Puts it on par with the difficulty of the nightfall. 320 is too high for the lack of difficulty. Cheapens trials/HM. Edit #4: To those saying they don't have time to raid, then spend hours upon hours in Iron Banner... Really? Also to those saying their friends are not on to raid... destinylfg.net, destinylfg.com, the100io, redditlfg, the app you are even posting on has an lfg! No excuse really. Edit #5: I see a lot of complaining from people who either get reksauced in trials, or are either too incompetent to complete Kings Fall HM (which is easy btw). I guess you can have your super duper easy mode for 310+ gear. Can't wait to have you guys in the raid being herp derps. It will be like the good old VoG days with level 30's in Iron Banner gear, dying every 30 seconds all over again... Edit #6: For all you players saying... "but how can I get max level solo? I guess us solo players get pooped on!" You. Bought. An. MMO. Game. I have yet to play any game that is considered an MMO, and get the best gear/levels soloing. Never even heard of such a thing... You should not be allowed to get end game gear solo. Period. Don't like that? Get Fallout. It's a great game for solo players (great game over all). Edit #7: To prove my point on why this is a sham. The next time iron banner is up. I will go in and kill nobody, I will shoot walls and generally be an even worse PVP player than I normally am. Guess what I might get? A roll on possible 320 loot from contributing zero. Hell it should be a negative sum because I will be dragging my team down. I will have the exact same chance as the top guys for the best loot in the game. See the failed logic in this? If I hop in a trials match and do that, it's a guaranteed loss. If I go into the raid and punch the raid mobs and die, it's a guaranteed fail. This is the equivalent of putting a chance on patrol bounties to drop 310+ loot or random chests in patrol doing the same, or regular crucible for that matter! Edit #8: Multiple people have stated seeing people who are afk. That means the controller was not even in the players hand... getting trials/HM equivalent gear. One guy went 0-14 and got a 320 ghost. This is like a welfare system. Do nothing, ???, Profit. Final edit: I guess what I am concerned about is hard to voice. So I will tell a short story... I remember in my youth one of my favorite games was Mechwarrior on Snes I played it non stop for weeks. That game was an absolute grind to get all the best gear, it was maddening sometimes with the incremental increases. So I borrowed my friends Game Genie and was able to buy everything I needed or wanted in the game! I wrecked everything and quit out of boredom within a week of everything being handed to me. Never to pick it up again. When everything is handed to you, and everyone is given an easy route it cheapens the experience. I have always sought out challenges in life because the rewards usually justified the effort. Does nobody like a challenge anymore? There is a reason why people in life work hard to achieve something worthwhile. Give everyone the same thing and effort dies. Innovation dies. I have worked my ass off irl to buy a new car, have a nice home to live in, being able to pay all my bills, and put something back for retirement. Think I would work my 50+ hours a week in a stressful environment every week, if the guy/girl who stocks shelves at the local store got the same rewards? This problem exists with the mentality that "I am alive, therfore I deserve" "I may not have the time nor skill, but I want it" Trophies being handed out for "participation" will set you on a path for disaster in life.

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  • TL-DR: OP is sad because the only thing that made him feel special in this life was having 310+ light in Destiny, and now has nothing to live for.

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    • Are you new? In year one iron banner dropped raid and trials equivalent gear... So why wouldn't it in in year 2? Are you seriously whining about getting good gear from iron banner? It comes around once a month..... If it was dropping end game loot then it wouldn't even be worth doing. Stop being a tool and complain about the one thing in destiny that doesn't have any problems. Unless you haven't noticed, the raid drops shit be up of rng and so does trials. Iron banner was just another chance to hopefully increase your light level

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    • Takes 2 hours max to beat the raid on hard....takes double that to hit rank 5 IB, why shouldn't it drop a ghost and one other item 310+? Earlier we beat Oryx in about 10 mins and I got a 319 mark, yeah that 10 mins was reallllllly rough.....IB is more of a grind then the raid is

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      • Thank you for posting this. I just found my 47th idiot to mute.

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        • Edited by linger: 11/24/2015 9:19:30 AM
          You sound like you care a lot, take a hike bro and quit annoying people with your entitled shit show of narcissism. You are next level delusional with your examples. None of us experienced the bullcrap you mentioned.

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        • Who cares dude, does it really effect your life that much. After all it's only a game.

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        • Well I got a 313 ghost a 310 ghost a 310 scout rifle 317 auto rifle 309 auto rifle 305 heavyweapon. and a 300 shotgun

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        • Not all of us have people in our friends list who are end game PvP players. I play with my friends, they aren't that good, they do not belong in Trials, therefore they do not play trials. I'm decent at random games of control and clash though, should I be punished because I don't know or want to know good PvP players. We are friends with who we are friends with, you can't change that.

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          • Looking at the PS4 trophy stats, 20% have competed The Taken King and 8% have completed King's Fall on normal. Only the most dedicated Guardians are still playing Destiny. They deserve every 310+ drop.

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            • No reason for trials anymore, doesn't drop elemental primarys.

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            • About edit 7: if you penalize your team like this you won't win a game not complete a bounty. So you won't reach the necessary level to open some bits of the loot table.

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            • I really don't care. Haven't played IB for a long time, but if people can get 310-320 gear this way, let em have it. Some won't ever get it any other way. Does it really matter that much? Or do you want to keep your bragging-rights?

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            • Edited by WasabiEyedrops: 11/24/2015 2:02:43 AM
              After dealing with hammers and red bars for 5 ranks, it should drop 330 gear

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              • Cry me a river! Oh! You already did!

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              • "I don't play PVP" The rest of your opinion is invalid. You don't know how hard or easy it is, beating a living person, dealing with P2P lag, lag switchers, etc.

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                • Edited by Nizzy 303: 11/24/2015 8:05:10 AM
                  I got 316 Iron Companion boots. All other drops were under 310. Iron Banner was so worth it, I'll do it next time, too! Finally, I can start having exotics drop at 310

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                • Iron Banner has been a source to reach higher levels for a long while, not new so why complain now?

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                  • Ghost are the only thing that could regularly drop 310-320. All other drops were sub 310. Except, obviously, from the rank 5 package. This did take some skill to get to as the bounties sped things up. If you just went Adam and did no bounties, you would eventually hit rank 5, but nowhere nearly as quick. The people going afk in most games would be the ones who had already hit rank 5 and just wanted a better drop. I agree they shouldn't do it, but it's the same in any game that has post match loot, (rng based.)

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                  • Edited by DeadxPoolx007: 11/24/2015 8:42:43 AM
                    The most important question is, why do you even care? I mean if you wanna grind hard mode raid for shit drops then be my guest, I'll join the scrubs in iron banner and have some fun to get good ranked gear. Not to mention trials has basically become exclusive to YR 2 flawlessers, Titans or players above or at 310-315 light. Sooooooo deal with elitist assholes to play trials or matchmaking Iron banner? I'll take Iron banner all day

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                  • with vog ib gear was level 31 with crota ib gear was 32 aswell...... and now its a problem??

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                  • You are clearly the best.

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                    • I agree with the light levels being over 310! I dont do trials but trials is the top of pvp and so should the drops, iron banner isnt top tier for pvp, loads of campers for clash i liked control because it forced people to attack! If you want iron banner gear over 310 do trials or raid to infuse!

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                    • Whaaa!!! I am not special at 320 others can get there too and do it easy.. Not fair make me a snowflake again.. that is all this thread says.

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                      • I actually agree with op: Normal raid/Iron Banner - 310 max Hard raid/Trials - 320 max It just makes sense.

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                        • Watched someone go 0-14 deaths 320 ghost. F ib.

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                          • With IB, myself as a parent can take a 10min break after a 10 min match. Would you like me on your raid team if I took a break for 10mins every 10mins? Didn't think so. Hence, no time to raid.

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