Sorry Charlie, none of my friends WANT to do ToO and none of them are doing the raid anymore either. I refuse to use sites that are out of the game to set-up a game. I've been preaching all along that Bungie needs to add OPTIONAL matchmaking, until then, the raid will just sit there for me. The reason Bungie did this for the IB was for people LIKE ME that primarily play PvE, minus ToO and the raid. I had been stuck at 295 for months until this IB came along and it rewarded me greatly and I'm not complaining one bit. It was the MOST FUN I've had in IB since the game launched in 2014. You're entitled to your opinion, but I bet 95 percent of the Destiny world would agree with me. Cheers