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** hard drops 320... and takes a skilled fireteam and much longer than an hour (most days)
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  • No, only with randoms does it take that long. A solid fireteam with experience playing together can get through hard mode in under an hour easily. With no wipes and not dragging ass on each part, the raid really isn't that long. I've seen normal mode done in a half hour, so even doubling that time for hard mode still makes it achievable

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  • I said hard mode is easy raid and it takes less than an hour. We totally skip chest nonsense for moldering shit. Totally doable between 50 and 60 min with no wipes. Up until Oryx anyone can loot up to 4 sources of 320 gear. Oryx can be a pain for the unskilled, yes. But we can do it blindfolded most of the time.

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  • True true... I only look for Golgoroth and/or Deathsinger CPs now

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  • Yeah, specially when Oryx has given my only one primary at just 314 in around 12-15 hard raids completed. Nonsense.

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  • I've still yet to get a single raid helmet in over 15 total completions, either difficulty

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  • No helmet for me either.

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  • I used to think the VoG drop rate was bad, but Kings Fall trumps that no problem

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  • At least King's fall it's easy enough for all 310s. Atheon was painful with all 29s.

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  • This is true. I remember how long it used to take on just Atheon in the beginning on HM. Good times tho

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