Why? It's alright. I'm no faze420xxxnoscope but I can throw down most times. Never really liked it from the beginning I only went in a few time a week. Mostly played the highest difficulty strikes until farming them got.... Old ... * gasp * . I was surprised myself . every day almost since beta. Strikes, nightfalls, heroric, patrol, a raid or two . I enjoyed myself and had fun the entire time. One day I just said -blam!- it. Jumped into the crucible and was playing it alot for. Finding my way around maps, memorizing them. Using different styles of weapons for certain things . different armor to benefit stats. So on so forth. Trying out different set ups and strategies . usually playing by myself but still enjoying myself. At the moment I have some iffy internet so crucible isn't entertaining and so gone back to strikes. Sorry about the destiny story there . Point is crucible is alright with good internet. Lag sucks alot. Awesome players make the experience not so fun but I can't help that. Most of the time games are just meh. You kinda start going for yourself instead of teaming up. If people would just play together and utilize the skill of both player and class then the mode would be fun all around.

Imagine cod and halo with no pvp They would sell like 20 copies

Cod is pvp. Nothing else. Zombies and survival I consider different. Almost forgot the aliens. Destiny combines the two and in my opinion I believe pve is 100 times better than pvp. Patrols, strikes of various levels, nightfalls, prison of elders, raids, dreadnought . Pvp has different variations of play. Different styles of team play packed into different game modes. Which I find entertaining most of the time but not always so fun in more ways than one. Trials of Osiris? I've only played a few matches pack when I almost never played pvp. Didn't like it. Haven't played since and now its a pulse rifle.... A sniper rifle..... A shotgun........ Super competitive I suppose ... Anyways I'm saying destiny has alot to offer and should never be considered an equal to or less than any cod game. It's a unique experience and will only grow better and more powerful. People think they are taking all this money and going to bail by next year if not before. If they did that would be a shame. But if they didn't.... Imagine if they used all this money to make their goal possible. Four games based around making you a legend. Four games, each one better than the next. More things than the last, more to do.. See... Imagine..... What is call of duty? Sorry for that long post .

Pve is boring for us competitive men If bungie wants to keep loosing money So be it

"Competitive" I believe alot more options should be open to pvp. Something like modes of 6 vs 6 in large space environments or normal I guess. And there were other enemies spawned around or within the middle. Everyone shoots everyone. Make the game about teamwork, skill, and over all score.