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12/1/2015 12:13:33 AM
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Not nerf em.. Make em harder to use. Let's be honest guys. This meta sniping is the easiest with the highest aim assist snipers yet. The efrideets spear was an 11% aim assist. And the 1000 yard stair is sitting around a 58% aim assist somewhere close to that. (correct me if I'm wrong) what bungie should do to them is add scope sway. And a bigger flinch when getting slammed with bullets. [i]this isn't a nerf its a re balance. This would make sniping require [u]actual skill.[/u] go ahead I'm waiting for the bad kids to cry saying this is a nerf. I'm waiting:)[/i]
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Giving snipers sway is obviously a nerf. Putting mechanics into the game to make something harder to use is obviously a nerf. How you can even attempt to argue anything else is beyond me. Adding more flinch is also a nerf. There is already a bunch of flinch (and it was increased in TTK), but players that don't snipe don't know this. You're a shotgun user that pretty much never snipes, so has hardly any idea how they handle.
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Edited by Nuggie Butt: 12/1/2015 2:07:31 AMYear one I liked sniping have some nice clips but since everybody is sniping in the back why not reward myself with free kills?:) your probably one of those kids who gets pissed at people like me. Except I don't primary my shotty. And there's differences between nerfs and balancing. ;) Ps my favorite sniper rn is the stillpiercer;) I have no problem with the flinching I still pull off the snipes easily
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Edited by NathanW18: 12/1/2015 2:19:24 AMYou have 10,000 kills on your Hunter with shotguns. If you're not a primary shotgun user, you're pretty damn close to it. I get pissed at shotgun users all the time, but not for the reason you believe. I'm generally a more active PvP player and actually use my sniper as a secondary weapon. I use my primary weapon as an actual primary, so feel more comfortable moving around the map. My dislike for shotguns has probably risen since 2.0. That is mostly because the best counter to shotguns (that wasn't another shotgun) has been nerfed; The Last Word. No primary has TTK that can stop a warrior from running through your bullets and shotgunning you from a stupid range. If you 'balance' a weapon type, which in effect makes it harder to use/weaker, that is a nerf. Shotguns are being 'balanced' in 2.1. Is this not a nerf?
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Not being able to shoot after sprinting we both know if that happened to snipers you'd 100% bitch about it. That's a nerf not a balance. Some of it is though like the melee blink strike thing that's balanced. And I have a lot of shotty kills because I'm an aggressive player, especially when I play sweats. I'm not going to use my pulse in close quarters. Ya feel me?
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Edited by NathanW18: 12/1/2015 3:01:06 AMIf I'm trying to use a sniper after sprinting, I'm likely doing it wrong, anyway. They're not meant to be used in that way. I guess it depends on how much of a delay they were placing on them. Still, it'd be less than a second, so I personally wouldn't be complaining about it. If I'm shooting out of sprint, I'm doing it with a primary. I don't see it being a massive problem for snipers. Snipers aren't blinking/sliding around, and shooting as soon as they exit the animation. Reducing shotgun range is a nerf. I can't really see it in any other way. If a weapon is being changed, so that it's harder to use, it's being nerfed. You can balance something and it still ends up being a nerf.
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I use a shotgun and I can honestly say it needs a range reduction but there's plenty of times your running with the sniper equip and someone pops up near you. You gotta stop and aim real quick right? I personally think that is the dumbest thing I have ever heard coming from a nerf
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Edited by NathanW18: 12/1/2015 3:35:20 AMIt can happen, but it means I had the wrong gun equipped. I would also not expect to win the gun fight in that scenario. I can't run around with a sniper and get quickscope kills consistently. Neither can the vast majority of the player base. You can obviously get lucky now and again, but it's not consistent. That being said, I wouldn't expect Bungie to ever nerf snipers in this way. People are not sniping like this. People may use them as primaries, but they're not running into multiple guys at once and quickscoping everyone.
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Yeh I see where your going. Tbh f*ck weapon rebalancing. Fix subclasses. Fix subclasses. Fix subclasses. That's what they should worry about. And not even the sunbreaker. All the other ones.
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Efrideets has a 25 base aim assist, 1000 yard stare has 56 base aim assist, and Longbow has a base aim assist of 53, yet no one complained about that one. ( for some reason) little do people realize that it's not the sniper it's the player. If you're a decent sniper them you will well with any of them.
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An old Gozen-C with Ambush (if anyone still has one) has an Aim Assist value of -16. Yes, -16.
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Edited by Nuggie Butt: 12/1/2015 12:47:30 AMSniping really doesn't take skill without a sway while scoped in or a better flinch when getting hit. Shotguns don't take skill when you use em as a primary. Fusion rifles like the tolesto take skill lol bout the only secondary that truly takes skill haha unless we are talking vanilla days.
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I personally don't have too much of a problem with Snipers but the Aim Assist on some of them such as 1000 Yard Stare is kinda silly. It actually gets 70somethng AA if you have Shortgaze on it. I hope to god that when Shotties get nerfed that people won't be Hardscoping every single map but they most likely will. :///
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year 1 snipers had way more aim assist.. Also you didnt need aim assist when pretty much everybody using Efrideets was using final round
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90% of my friends didn't use the final round. So not everybody was using it. And nope vanilla and all year 1 snipers had less aim assist:) not bitching either:)
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Shadow of veils had 90 aim assist
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my bad someone told me that year 1s had more AA and it had tons of up votes so i believed it, but i just checked now and i was wrong. Ill hold this L
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Lol it's all good bro the L was taken with honor Lls
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Just saying, year one snipers were a lot better than year 2 snipers, people just love to bitch and complain about this game
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They weren't better. They were harder to use. And I'm not complaining snipers are easy to kill with my shotty;) or tolesto;)
