Cod is pvp. Nothing else. Zombies and survival I consider different. Almost forgot the aliens. Destiny combines the two and in my opinion I believe pve is 100 times better than pvp. Patrols, strikes of various levels, nightfalls, prison of elders, raids, dreadnought . Pvp has different variations of play. Different styles of team play packed into different game modes. Which I find entertaining most of the time but not always so fun in more ways than one. Trials of Osiris? I've only played a few matches pack when I almost never played pvp. Didn't like it. Haven't played since and now its a pulse rifle.... A sniper rifle..... A shotgun........ Super competitive I suppose ... Anyways I'm saying destiny has alot to offer and should never be considered an equal to or less than any cod game. It's a unique experience and will only grow better and more powerful. People think they are taking all this money and going to bail by next year if not before. If they did that would be a shame. But if they didn't.... Imagine if they used all this money to make their goal possible. Four games based around making you a legend. Four games, each one better than the next. More things than the last, more to do.. See... Imagine..... What is call of duty? Sorry for that long post .

Pve is boring for us competitive men If bungie wants to keep loosing money So be it

"Competitive" I believe alot more options should be open to pvp. Something like modes of 6 vs 6 in large space environments or normal I guess. And there were other enemies spawned around or within the middle. Everyone shoots everyone. Make the game about teamwork, skill, and over all score.