I'm not saying defenders are impossible, but they definately have it roughest in pvp. It is fun playing a defender. I main a defender, but if we are saying all classes should be equal in effectiveness in pvp, then that is a fair comparison to make. You can't say because it is a defensive class that means it is supposed to not be as good as gunslinger. And 2 of 3 shots does not cancel supers out, it should be 3 shots to pop. If you use the exotic that gives a 4th shot, then that is fine to kill the defender with. You used your exotic spot for it. But in terms of super cancelling defenders generally come up short. Not always, but generally yes. The logic people use saying to buff these other classes doesn't make sense when some of the others are fairly underpowered in pvp. Defenders are defensive, but they aren't defensive enough to be equals. Sunbreakers are tankier than defenders right now. And I'm fine with a sunbreaker nerf of some sort. Just nothing crazy. But let's not buff other classes till we make sure everyone is on equal footing. There is a reason people post videos of awesome defender clips. Because it is harder to do well as a defender than say a sunbreaker or stormcaller.