Defenders are effective, and I in no way am saying they should be more offensive at all. I'm saying they should be more defensive effective. Have a stronger defense. Melee supers entering the bubble is fine. The super is designed to accommodate melee specifically. And even if they keep the 2 shots to pop the bubble, that is fine. I was using that more as an example If people are arguing to give GG all these buffs because sunbreaker does xyz, then that is indirectly saying that classes should be equal. So anyone making that arguement is, indirectly, arguing that classes should be equal. As equal as completely different supers can be at least. My whole thing is if the classes generally fare equally in a game, in terms of wins and such, then they are relatively equal. I wouldn't say defenders need much of a buff, but saying a class like gunslinger or nightstalker (which other people, not specifically you, have claimed) needs one isn't looking at the big picture of all subclasses.